NFL Season 2010

[XXXIV]

The Jets will definitely beat the Steelers on Sunday mark it down !

Signed,

Jinxy

Jinxy you awesome!

[JackB1]

Jets or the Steelers will beat whoever emerges from the NFC. The defenses of Chicago or Green Bay just can't match up with those of the Jets or Pitt.

Jack, your standing in the DSP community is unassailable.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/gametracke ... 26_NYJ@CHI

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/gametracke ... 031_GB@NYJ

If and when you ever run into logic or reason, please be careful. They're surprisingly powerful.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/stats/team ... 10/regular

The Steelers are ranked #2 in overall Defense and the Jets #3. Green Bay is #5 and Chicago #9.
Seems quite logical to me. What's not logical, is pointing out 2 individual games from the regular
season that don't have anything whatsoever to do with the playoffs. Compare what happened
with the last Jets / Pats last regular season game to what happened last Sunday. No comparison.

[JackB1]

The Jets/Steelers game is shapping up to be a real defensive war with very low scoring. Prediction...Jets 13 Steelers 6

That's what they said about Steelers-Ravens last weekend, and the over was covered in the third quarter. I don't care what the over-under is in the Jets-Steelers' game: I'm taking the OVER.

I wouldn't take that bet Paul

[JackB1]

The Jets will definitely beat the Steelers on Sunday mark it down !

Signed,

Jinxy

Sorry but Mizz already "opposite - predicted" the Jets, so you guys cancel each other out

[Rodster]

Ask XXXIV he'll tell you my current record. I believe it's at 100%. And for the record I predicted the Pats would beat the Jets.

I'm a bad version of Jimmy the Greek...oink oink

[JackB1]

......for the record I predicted the Pats would beat the Jets.

so did everyone else!

[RobVarak]

Jack,

Measuring team defense by yards per game is a joke at best. It's like measuring defense in baseball based solely on number of errors committed: blunt, misleading and ignorant.

The world is full of better alternatives. First one that comes to mind: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef

Even if we accept yardage as a reasonable metric, you're saying that two other top 10 defenses can't "match up" with another top 10 defense?

Regular season performance matters if someone makes a claim as idiotic as the one you have. The Pats and Jets played a blow out and a close game, and it would've been just as dumb to say that the Jets stood no chance on that record. Moreover, if you think that teams that beat the Jets already this season can't "match up" with them because of some magical playoff pixie dust that wipes away the regular season, you're even more deserving of your place on all these guys' ignore lists than I thought.

The AFC may win it all, but nothing that has happened in the regular season or playoffs has indicated that any single team is head-and-shoulders above the rest of the league. And the data that we do have show us that the teams left ought to be able to "match up" just fine.

Your original statement is really nothing more than the kind of fatuous bloviating which bombards us from network TV. And aren't we all smart enough to avoid sounding like Deion Sanders or Trent Dilfer?

[ScoopBrady]

McDaniels to Rams as OC.

As far as defense goes the only stat I care about is points allowed. I think all 4 teams left were in the top 5 this year. You can't lose if you allow 350 yards and 0 points. You can lose if you allow 125 yards and 13 points.

[JRod]

Jack,

Measuring team defense by yards per game is a joke at best. It's like measuring defense in baseball based solely on number of errors committed: blunt, misleading and ignorant.

The world is full of better alternatives. First one that comes to mind: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef

Even if we accept yardage as a reasonable metric, you're saying that two other top 10 defenses can't "match up" with another top 10 defense?

Regular season performance matters if someone makes a claim as idiotic as the one you have. The Pats and Jets played a blow out and a close game, and it would've been just as dumb to say that the Jets stood no chance on that record. Moreover, if you think that teams that beat the Jets already this season can't "match up" with them because of some magical playoff pixie dust that wipes away the regular season, you're even more deserving of your place on all these guys' ignore lists than I thought.

The AFC may win it all, but nothing that has happened in the regular season or playoffs has indicated that any single team is head-and-shoulders above the rest of the league. And the data that we do have show us that the teams left ought to be able to "match up" just fine.

Your original statement is really nothing more than the kind of fatuous bloviating which bombards us from network TV. And aren't we all smart enough to avoid sounding like Deion Sanders or Trent Dilfer?

This sounds exactly like Jack's post from someone who doesn't care what happens Sunday. Nothing more than bloviating unless you invented sabremetrics for football and got hired as a GM of the Bears between Sunday and now.

Arguing about sports stats is pretty pointless.

[XXXIV]

McDaniels to Rams as OC.

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Alrighty then. The lambs are set at OC for at least the next 25 years.

Coach Steve Spagnuolo called McDaniel one of the top offensive minds in the NFL.

Spags!!! PUT THE WEED AWAY!!!

On the bright side. Hiring this guy to cure your sick offense is like eating chicken soup for your cold.... It cant hoit.

[JRod]

McDaniels to Rams as OC.

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Alrighty then. The lambs are set at OC for at least the next 25 years.

Coach Steve Spagnuolo called McDaniel one of the top offensive minds in the NFL.

Spags!!! PUT THE WEED AWAY!!!

On the bright side. Hiring this guy to cure your sick offense is like eating chicken soup for your cold.... It cant hoit.

You could make the argument that the Broncos problem wasn't in the offense. And that some of the Pats problems are because he left. One could make the argument. One could also call him a major f*** up for f***in up the Broncos.

[GTHobbes]

No team with Jay Cutler at starting QB will ever win the Super Bowl. I saw him throw a ball right into a LB's belly down around the goal line Sunday -- might have been one of the worst passes I've ever seen. Lucky for him and the bears, the LB on the 7-9 Seahawks dropped it and CHI went on to score.

Cutler's a meathead loser -- and with him at QB, I'm expecting the Pack to put away the Bears pretty easily this weekend. GB ain't no Seattle.

[wco81]

Which is worse, meathead loser or meathead rapist?

[ScoopBrady]

Every pass Ben makes is perfect? He's never thrown an interception or bad pass?

Funny thing, I was talking to a coworker today about the fans I've encountered at Soldier Field over the years and how they behaved. The Patriot fans were as arrogant as their team. I told him that Packer fans were generally cool and very respectful. The one that surprised me the most were the Steelers fans. I expected them to be similar to Packer fans due to the rich history of tbe franchise but that is not what I got. They acted and sounded a lot like what i just read. It was a pleasure sending them home with a loss.

Edit: Oh yeah, that Bears win was with Jay Cutler at quarterback who threw 0 interceptions to Ben's 1. Just sayin.

[GTHobbes]

Which is worse, meathead loser or meathead rapist?

I'd take # 7 over Cutler every day of the week. I missed this story last week, but it apparently ain't just this Stiller fan who's picked up on what a punk Cutler is:

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/news/story?id=6017986

"For a man from Santa Claus, Ind., Jay Cutler is one of the least jolly people you've ever met.

If he's not The Most Hated Man in the NFL, he's in the running. His expression is usually that of a man wearing sandpaper underwear. He looks everywhere but into your eyes. It's a tie as to which he enjoys more -- smirking or shrugging.

It's hard to say what interests Cutler, but it's definitely not you."

""He's an arrogant little punk," former Broncos radio color man, Scott Hastings, once said on a national show. "He's a little b*tch."

Harsh? Yes. Heard before? Yes.

"I used to hear this kind of stuff a lot," says Marty Garafalo, a freelance publicist who handled Cutler in Denver. "Elway was always trying to give you the time of day, and Jay was always seeing which door he could get out of quicker. It was a maturity thing."

[Danimal]

Rick Reilly, yeah there is a source of good reporting.

[MizzouRah]

The Jets will definitely beat the Steelers on Sunday mark it down !

Signed,

Jinxy

Sorry but Mizz already "opposite - predicted" the Jets, so you guys cancel each other out

Always bet on my opposites!

[MizzouRah]

Alrighty then. The lambs are set at OC for at least the next 25 years.

Coach Steve Spagnuolo called McDaniel one of the top offensive minds in the NFL.

Spags!!! PUT THE WEED AWAY!!!

On the bright side. Hiring this guy to cure your sick offense is like eating chicken soup for your cold.... It cant hoit.

I like the move.. kind of reminds me of Martz.. he couldn't be the HC, but he's one heck of an OC.

[ScoopBrady]

Which is worse, meathead loser or meathead rapist?

I'd take # 7 over Cutler every day of the week. I missed this story last week, but it apparently ain't just this Stiller fan who's picked up on what a punk Cutler is:

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/news/story?id=6017986

"For a man from Santa Claus, Ind., Jay Cutler is one of the least jolly people you've ever met.

If he's not The Most Hated Man in the NFL, he's in the running. His expression is usually that of a man wearing sandpaper underwear. He looks everywhere but into your eyes. It's a tie as to which he enjoys more -- smirking or shrugging.

It's hard to say what interests Cutler, but it's definitely not you."

""He's an arrogant little punk," former Broncos radio color man, Scott Hastings, once said on a national show. "He's a little b*tch."

Harsh? Yes. Heard before? Yes.

"I used to hear this kind of stuff a lot," says Marty Garafalo, a freelance publicist who handled Cutler in Denver. "Elway was always trying to give you the time of day, and Jay was always seeing which door he could get out of quicker. It was a maturity thing."

Here's a counterpoint article: http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/5075

If you read that one you hardly come away thinking Cutler is a jerk. It's pretty obvious that Reilly made up his mind about Cutler before having any real knowledge of him and went into a press conference ready to lay into him. Rather than chasing a story he tried to create one. That's not exactly what I would call journalistic integrity. As for Scott Hastings, what a shocker. Of course he's going to say that. I could care less if he doesn't want the spotlight and doesn't make himself as available as other quarterbacks. All I care about is him winning football games and so far he is. Would I take Jay Cutler over Roethlisberger just looking at skills, probably not. Would I take him over Big Ben when you look at personality and skills, every day of the week.

[Lancer]

Is there really any difference between Cutler and Rex Grossman that year they went to the SB vs Indy?

Seems like this years Bears team is doing it on D like Grossman's team did.

Wasn't Grossman WR crew better than this years Bears? That Knox kid is pretty good but I'm not sold on Hester or whoever else they have as top notch WRs.

The Packers should win this game BUT it seems like the only team that knows how to beat GB is the Bears. GB should have won that first game but found a way to give it away, and they barely won the last game of the season when the Bears weren't even trying.

[pk500]

Rick Reilly, yeah there is a source of good reporting.

Exactly. Rick Reilly is a renowned, longtime ball licker of many pro athletes. He may have slobbered Elway's nut sack most of all.

[Danimal]

Rick Reilly, yeah there is a source of good reporting.

Exactly. Rick Reilly is a renowned, longtime ball licker of many pro athletes. He may have slobbered Elway's nut sack most of all.

What is not being mentioned is this.

1. Reilly covered Denver while Cutler was there. He is a long time Elway guy and he didn't like how Cutler wasn't receptive of Elway's advice.

2. Reilly was in town doing a story on Derek Rose, he wanted access to Cutler the Bears denied it. I mean he was only preparing for a playoff game that week. Reilly took it as a slight and went into a press conference, manufactured a story (as he often does) and then you get that piece on ESPN.

I'm not one of Cutlers biggest fans, frankly I don't think he will turn out to be am elite QB ever. However that article and the piece of s*** who wrote it are a waste of space that has nothing to do with playing football.

What's funny is GT is willing to overlook a sexual deviant at QB because he plays a the QB position like a man. However he is dismissing Cutler because he is a punk and doesn't act right. They both have nothing to do with playing football, but as far as I know being a prick isn't illegal, while sexual abusing women is.

[RobVarak]

This sounds exactly like Jack's post from someone who doesn't care what happens Sunday. Nothing more than bloviating unless you invented sabremetrics for football and got hired as a GM of the Bears between Sunday and now.

Arguing about sports stats is pretty pointless.

I'm sorry, I thought responding to a generalization with specific data was a reasonable way to communicate. Irony not being your strong suit obviously, I'll be direct. At what point on the sliding scale of pointless would you rate communicating on an internet forum about videogames?

[JRod]

This sounds exactly like Jack's post from someone who doesn't care what happens Sunday. Nothing more than bloviating unless you invented sabremetrics for football and got hired as a GM of the Bears between Sunday and now.

Arguing about sports stats is pretty pointless.

I'm sorry, I thought responding to a generalization with specific data was a reasonable way to communicate. Irony not being your strong suit obviously, I'll be direct. At what point on the sliding scale of pointless would you rate communicating on an internet forum about videogames?

Your original statement is really nothing more than the kind of fatuous bloviating which bombards us from network TV. And aren't we all smart enough to avoid sounding like Deion Sanders or Trent Dilfer?

[AJColossal]

Is there really any difference between Cutler and Rex Grossman that year they went to the SB vs Indy?

While there are certain things he does that can be reminiscent of Grossman, Cutler is a much more talented QB. Whatever you may think of Jay Cutler, he is the best QB the Bears have had in decades, probabably forever. An indictment of the history of Bears QBs much more than singing the praises of Cutler.

As for the WRs --yes, the Bears WRs are less of a group than the '06 Bears that had Berrian, Muhammad, etc. The current WR core is a filled with #3s and maybe one potential #2.

The feeling I get comparing the '06 Bears to the '10 Bears is that the '06 defense was a little more dynamic (esp when Tommie Harris was healthy), and the '10 offense could be more explosive than '06, although the '06 offense definitely had it's moments.