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Nozzleman_216 · Post by **Nozzleman_216** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:00 pm

If the game follows NFL rules, and it should, it will go like this.............

NFL Tiebreaking Procedures

The six postseason participants from each conference are seeded as follows:

1. The division champion with the best record.
2. The division champion with the second-best record.
3. The division champion with the third-best record.
4. The division champion with the fourth-best record.
5. The Wild Card club with the best record.
6. The Wild Card club with the second-best record.

The following procedures will be used to break standings ties for postseason playoffs and to determine regular-season schedules.

NOTE: Tie games count as one-half win and one-half loss for both clubs.
TO BREAK A TIE WITHIN A DIVISION

If, at the end of the regular season, two or more clubs in the same division finish with identical won-lost-tied percentages, the following steps will be taken until a champion is determined.
Two Clubs

1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss

Three or More Clubs

(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated during any step, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of the two-club format).

1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss

TO BREAK A TIE FOR THE WILD-CARD TEAM

If it is necessary to break ties to determine the two Wild-Card clubs from each conference, the following steps will be taken.

1. If the tied clubs are from the same division, apply division tie breaker.
2. If the tied clubs are from different divisions, apply the following steps.

Two Clubs

1. Head-to-head, if applicable.
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
4. Strength of victory.
5. Strength of schedule.
6. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
7. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best net points in conference games.
9. Best net points in all games.
10. Best net touchdowns in all games.
11. Coin toss.

Three or More Clubs

(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.)

1. Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants.
2. Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in conference games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss

When the first Wild-Card team has been identified, the procedure is repeated to name the second Wild-Card, i.e., eliminate all but the highest-ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. In situations where three or more teams from the same division are involved in the procedure, the original seeding of the teams remains the same for subsequent applications of the tie breaker if the top-ranked team in that division qualifies for a Wild-Card berth.

Zeppo · Post by **Zeppo** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:07 pm

Well if it's common games between myself and the Igles before conference record, assuming we both finish 11-5 in the first place, Philadelphia would win that tie break. So I might already be out.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:19 pm

Zeppo wrote:Well if it's common games between myself and the Igles before conference record, assuming we both finish 11-5 in the first place, Philadelphia would win that tie break. So I might already be out.

That just plain sux...Contrary to what I have told others

, your Redskins are my favorite non horn wearing team in the league...meaning I wanted a rematch.

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:45 pm

Broncos finished their 09 campaign today with a win over the Chiefs. The Broncos Defense took advatange of 3 chief miscues for 21 points. Eddy Royals returned a 97 yard kick off for a TD and Orton (possibly playing his last game) manage to only lead the Denver Offense to 10 points.

Here are some highlights of the Broncos season courtesy of EA's new replay tool, which frankly could be cool but they half assed it again.

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Zeppo · Post by **Zeppo** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:43 pm

I request the presence of MacMan to play the final Chargers game of the year.

Considering it's against my Redskins, I would appreciate an appearance Tuesday or Wednesday night.

Probably Tuesday.

macsomjrr · Post by **macsomjrr** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:21 am

Zeppo wrote:I request the presence of MacMan to play the final Chargers game of the year.

Considering it's against my Redskins, I would appreciate an appearance Tuesday or Wednesday night.

Probably Tuesday.

I'm available Zep! Just replied to your PM. Looking forward to it:)

TCrouch · Post by **TCrouch** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:27 pm

Scoop, when do you want to make JaMarcus look foolish?

Post by **ScoopBrady** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:45 pm

TCrouch wrote:Scoop, when do you want to make JaMarcus look foolish?

I can tomorrow night around 8:00 pm central if that's good for you.

TCrouch · Post by **TCrouch** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:56 pm

Should be fine.

Nozzleman_216 · Post by **Nozzleman_216** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:46 pm

wayne23, when are you available to try and play our game?

Slumberland · Post by **Slumberland** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:53 pm

Wayne and Scoop are fighting for a playoff spot, right? How's the seeding shaping up in the AFC?

Post by **ScoopBrady** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:37 pm

Slumberland wrote:Wayne and Scoop are fighting for a playoff spot, right? How's the seeding shaping up in the AFC?

I think I have to beat Terry and Wayne has to lose. It's the equivalent of me bringing a knife to a gun fight.

tmdba37 · Post by **tmdba37** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:28 pm

Aren't the AFC Seeds likely going to be:

1: Dolphins

2 and 3: Raiders or Titans

4: Browns

5: Jets

6: Jaguars, Ravens or Pats

Slumberland · Post by **Slumberland** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:35 pm

That would be a travesty if a CPU team (the Pats ever since grtwhtsk left) snuck in there.

Post by **Jared** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:13 pm

tmdba37 wrote:Aren't the AFC Seeds likely going to be:

1: Dolphins

2 and 3: Raiders or Titans

4: Browns

5: Jets

6: Jaguars, Ravens or Pats

If the Raiders and Titans win, and if the tiebreakers are correct in Madden, it should be:

1. Dolphins
2. Raiders (12-4, 9-3 conf record)
3. Titans (12-4, 8-4 conf record)
4. Browns
5. Jets
6. Jags/Ravens

If Cleveland loses and Baltimore wins, Cleveland still wins the division on having a better divisional record (5-1 vs. 4-2). So the Browns have the division wrapped up and the 4 seed (assuming that the Madden tiebreakers are the same as NFL tiebreakers; for all we know they use achievement points to break ties in the game...).

As for the wild card, if the Jags, Pats, and Ravens are tied for the last spot at 9-7, then I think it goes to conference record, there the Jags would advance with the best conference record. This is the only way the Pats would be tied with other teams for the last wild card, so I think they're out.

I think it's the same if the Jags and Ravens both win and go to 10-6; as there's no head-to-head, the Jags would still have a better conference record by one game. If the game does tiebreakers right (and if I have it right), the only way the Ravens advance as the last-wild card is if they defeat Oakland and if Cleveland beats Jacksonville. I THINK.

Also, I think the NFL playoffs are bracketed such that the highest seed is always matched up against the lowest seed. So in the bracket above, the Dolphins would play the winner of the Browns/Jets game UNLESS the 6 seed (Jags/Ravens) beat the Titans; then it would be Fins vs. 6 seed.

Post by **Jared** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:32 pm

As for the NFC:

Chicago - win vs Lions: take division. If they lose and Minnesota wins, Minnesota wins the division based on divisional record. The division winner also gets a bye into the playoffs.

If Minnesota wins, then the loser of the Dallas/Philly game takes the final wild card, as they both beat Washington (if they win, a loss knocks them out) on tiebreakers (Dallas on divisional record, and Philly on common opponents; all the same except for Washington losing to the CPU Panthers).

If Minnesota loses and Washington wins, then there would be a three-way tie at 11-5 (MIN, WAS, and the loser of DAL/PHI) for the two wild card spots. Unfortunately, for three-way tiebreakers, the first tiebreak is to use the divisional tiebreaker, which (as noted above) Washington loses in either case.

If this is the case, then the Dallas/Philly game doesn't have playoff implications. But it does have big seeding implications, as the winner will receive a bye, whereas the loser will have to play either Atlanta or St. Louis. So it's still a really big game.

So, the long and short of it is, if Madden works by NFL tiebreakers (and if I've got my info right), then the playoff teams are set: Dallas, Chicago, Philly, Minnesota, Arizona, and St. Louis. However, we have no idea if this is the case, so the Redskins still have hope.

TheGamer2 · Post by **TheGamer2** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:38 pm

Jared wrote:ASo, the long and short of it is, if Madden works by NFL tiebreakers (and if I've got my info right), then the playoff teams are set: Dallas, Chicago, Philly, Minnesota, Arizona, and St. Louis. However, we have no idea if this is the case, so the Redskins still have hope.

I'm starting to think it doesn't go by NFL rules, based on how you worked it up, we should have all clinched spots once the week was flipped. since we haven't, Washington must have a shot in some way or another.

TCrouch · Post by **TCrouch** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:39 pm

Been trying not to be the rain on the parade, but Madden's tiebreakers are completely hosed from what I've heard.

I think Ian said the #1 tiebreaker in online franchise is Points Scored. I hope I'm wrong, but I've heard of some bizarre ties that teams with much worse conference records and even lost head to head beat out the other team because they scored more points.

TheGamer2 · Post by **TheGamer2** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:44 pm

Damn, I would lose out under that tie scenario, that would really suck.

Nozzleman_216 · Post by **Nozzleman_216** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:57 pm

TCrouch wrote:Been trying not to be the rain on the parade, but Madden's tiebreakers are completely hosed from what I've heard.

I think Ian said the #1 tiebreaker in online franchise is Points Scored. I hope I'm wrong, but I've heard of some bizarre ties that teams with much worse conference records and even lost head to head beat out the other team because they scored more points.

Well thats a complete crock of s***!

tmdba37 · Post by **tmdba37** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:57 pm

TCrouch wrote:Been trying not to be the rain on the parade, but Madden's tiebreakers are completely hosed from what I've heard.

I think Ian said the #1 tiebreaker in online franchise is Points Scored. I hope I'm wrong, but I've heard of some bizarre ties that teams with much worse conference records and even lost head to head beat out the other team because they scored more points.

This is my fear as well, and really, who has any faith that they put all of the tiebreakers that Nozzle was nice enough to list out for us into the OF anyway. . .

Looks like I am going to try and put a nice 70 spot on the Seahawks later tonight

Post by **Jared** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:10 pm

What an odd tiebreaker, as all that does is encourage people to run up the score against opponents. Site is down, so I'll try and work out the new tiebreakers soon enough (they should be simple.....).

Slumberland · Post by **Slumberland** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:21 pm

Oh, the Pats are back under human control! I'm glad that was temporary.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:09 pm

The Rams beat the cpu Niners on a fg as time expires 16-13.

Whos next?

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:09 pm

Slumberland wrote:That would be a travesty if a CPU team (the Pats ever since grtwhtsk left) snuck in there.

Nevermind I obviouslly didn't read far enough down, but i think you're right they were cpu controlled for a few weeks,