MVP (PSP) Impressions

[GTHobbes]

MVP on the Xbox is the king... On the consoles, it's the other way around...MVP wins, hands down.

Exactly what I was talking about. Glad you guys like MVP so much, but I won't miss it next year at all.

EA said they had a 3 year plan with MVP. I think they needed at least 5. No practice swings, generic hunched over batting stances, "hit up for fly-ball" batting mechanism and other things just make the game no fun for me to play. I'm a huge baseball fan, but I struggled to get through 9 innings every time I played MVP.

Promise that will be the last time I criticize MVP and talk up MLB. If you guys can look past those things, I'm glad you found a baseball game you can enjoy. I've got 2 that I love this year and will look forward to seeing what 989 does to improve the PS2 and PSP games next year.

[JRod]

Tough to say that MVP 2004 is better on the PSP. Any game using an old engine shouldn't even be release but that's just me. I really wished they offered MVP 2005 w/ franchise light if they were going for that.

As for MVP XBox. The AI is the best I've seen for baseball since HH. I've seen some stuff in the last few days that have blown my mind. Where the AI have correctly played some really aweful plays. Player attributes mean a lot.

I have to say the MVP Xbox's AI is on the same page as WE. I've played long enough to make that call. Hit variety at times can be redundant but where MVP shines is during sloppy baseball. That makes it a winner in my book.

[Leebo33]

No practice swings, generic hunched over batting stances, "hit up for fly-ball" batting mechanism and other things just make the game no fun for me to play.

Well, 2 of the 3 things you mentioned have nothing to do with actual gameplay. I'm not saying those aren't important to you, but they obviously aren't as important to most people. Plus, I swear I can take practice swings in MVP. In fact, I just tried it and did a few with Thome.

We've pretty much beat this comparison to death, but MLB will never take it to the next level with me until they do these things:

- make the strike zone remotely close to what is actually called in real life;
- Add more pitcher variability...especially from the CPU;
- Get rid of the rocket arms from EVERY player;
- have a realistic amount of passed balls;
- realistic check swings;
- speed up the baserunners;
- more hit variety; and,
- allow balls out of the strike zone to be hit...even if it is just fouling them off.

I'll take more interactive control on defense, the ability to choose my own slide, and the removal of the thousand extra button presses to throw pitches, but the above list would make it feel more like baseball to me.

[Badgun]

No practice swings, generic hunched over batting stances, "hit up for fly-ball" batting mechanism and other things just make the game no fun for me to play.

Well, 2 of the 3 things you mentioned have nothing to do with actual gameplay. I'm not saying those aren't important to you, but they obviously aren't as important to most people. Plus, I swear I can take practice swings in MVP. In fact, I just tried it and did a few with Thome.

We've pretty much beat this comparison to death, but MLB will never take it to the next level with me until they do these things:

- make the strike zone remotely close to what is actually called in real life;
- Add more pitcher variability...especially from the CPU;
- Get rid of the rocket arms from EVERY player;
- have a realistic amount of passed balls;
- realistic check swings;
- speed up the baserunners;
- more hit variety; and,
- allow balls out of the strike zone to be hit...even if it is just fouling them off.

I'll take more interactive control on defense, the ability to choose my own slide, and the removal of the thousand extra button presses to throw pitches, but the above list would make it feel more like baseball to me.

I'll agree with you on the rocket arms and baserunners, especially the rocket arms. To me, that was the only real fundamental flaw with MLB, the rest of the stuff is purely subjective.

I'll give you another area where MLB succeeds and MVP fails...wind. EA claims that wind is in this year's game, but I have never seen it have any effect on the ball. In MLB, I've actually had the wind cause me to misplay several fly balls and that really adds to the realism we all so desperately seek.

I'm not knocking MVP on the Xbox, I am having a good time with the game. But after playing both MLB and MVP extensively, there is no doubt in my mind that if you tone down the rocket arms and fix the freezing issues, MLB is hands down the better baseball game.

People continuously rave about MVP's AI, but it's more predictable than an episode of 24. For example, no matter what inning you are in, unless the batter is a power hitter, the cpu will always attempt to bunt a runner on first over. EA also seems to have a set time when a pitcher that is getting shelled gets taken out. Last night I had 9 runs on Ben Sheets in the third inning, but the CPU left him in until the 6th. I also see a lot more of bad AI out of MVP as well. I can't tell you how many times I've seen relief pitchers bat for themselves in obvious pinch hitting situations. There just doesn't seem to be enough variability with MVP's AI...the CPU will usually do the same thing EVERY time.

Another thing I've never seen in MVP is any batter attempt to bunt for a hit. Even though the announcers talk about it every time a fast batter comes to the plate, it never happens. IN MLB, I've been totally caught off guard by slower runners dropping down a drag bunt and having it work because I wasn't expecting it.

MVP is a great game and I've seen it do a lot of neat stuff, but it still feels like a video game. On the other hand, the AI in MLB is so unpredictible and variable, that you never know what's coming next, which makes it feel more like real basball than a video game.

In the end, I had to pick MVP because of the freezing issues. I just could not continue to have all the time I put in with MLB count for nothing because of a freeze that would cost me multiple games or even a franchise. But I've also played enough of both games to make the determination which one plays the better, smarter game of baseball, and MLB wins hands down.

I know we've done these threads to death, but after playing over 70 games of MVP on both Pro and All Star levels and probably about as many games of MLB, I can clearly say that MLB is the better game...on the field. Where MVP wins the battle, at least for me, is in the technical area, as MVP appears to be a bug free product.

[MizzouRah]

2. I turned the pitch speed down to -50.

Me too. ...and you need to wait a few seconds while the pitcher gets ready to pitch, then the option is there.


Todd

Todd, I swear I do that and the Options for Batting/Baserunning, View Your Bullpen, and View their Bullpen are white and available but the Pitching/Defense option is grayed out!

This is both in season and quick play. Can you check again?

I'll check tonight when I get home.. had my little one's birthday party and everyone was playing Tiger Woods. (I think that's my favorite game on the psp so far)

I do remember the pitching/defense button being grayed out at some point though, just thought it was while the batter was coming up to bat and once the pitcher was getting ready to pitch, it was available again.??

Pro default has yielded quite a bit of variety and I'm really getting into the game. I haven't had one freeze yet Leebo, so maybe your copy is bad?

Next time you get a freeze, try putting the game in sleep mode and then back on again.


Todd

[Leebo33]

For example, no matter what inning you are in, unless the batter is a power hitter, the cpu will always attempt to bunt a runner on first over. EA also seems to have a set time when a pitcher that is getting shelled gets taken out. Last night I had 9 runs on Ben Sheets in the third inning, but the CPU left him in until the 6th. I also see a lot more of bad AI out of MVP as well. I can't tell you how many times I've seen relief pitchers bat for themselves in obvious pinch hitting situations. There just doesn't seem to be enough variability with MVP's AI...the CPU will usually do the same thing EVERY time.

Another thing I've never seen in MVP is any batter attempt to bunt for a hit. Even though the announcers talk about it every time a fast batter comes to the plate, it never happens.

This is one of those times when I just can't believe that I am playing the same game. I was playing the Marlins once and Pierre and Castillo tried to bunt for a basehit in the same *inning*! I think the pinch hitter AI needs work in both games. I couldn't disagree more about the sac bunt comment. Although I think the CPU does bunt a little too often, I haven't seen more than a few questionable bunt decisions. For instance, I know I have never seen a number 8 NL hitter bunt unless it was in the late innings of a tight ballgame.

I think the AI is little better in MLB PSP than the PS2 version. I thought the AI in the PS2 version had some significant problems. I pretty much agree with Bill Abner's review in that regard:

http://www.gameshark.com/?a=reviews&s=1 ... 5&pid=&p=0)

"it's a shame that the game is marred by so many strange AI and gameplay lapses; it has some basic AI flaws that no next-generation baseball game should have. The examples are long and varied: pitchers in the National League will not sacrifice runners over when they should; the CPU will at times let a pitcher bat in the top of an inning and then bring in a relief pitcher at the start of the bottom of the next inning. These are things that should never, ever happen."

[Leebo33]

Next time you get a freeze, try putting the game in sleep mode and then back on again.

Yeah, I tried that each time it froze along with giving it plenty of time to "wake up" and hitting every button

I'm playing on default Pro. It's nice to see that the lefty bug has been crushed. I have about the same amount of homeruns from both sides and I've seen a realistic amount of opposite field power.

Do you think the meter is harder than MVP 2005? I'm not just talking about the cursor placement either. It really brings some intensity back to the game because I'm having a bit of trouble hitting my spots at times.

[dbdynsty25]

I'm with Leebo...I have no idea what games you are playing Badgun.

I'm was MLB's biggest supporter before the season (while not liking MVP 2004 at all and liking the core game of MLB 2005). While they did deliver on a really solid baseball game that I definitely could play if it was the only game on the block (see February '06), but MVP just came out of no where this year to deliver on one of the most complete baseball games to hit the market in a long time. Sure, High Head with some mod's on the PC did better, but for a stand alone console baseball game...MVP has definitely been the best console baseball game of this generation.

I guess I'm just not as baseball savvy as badgun and the others than swear the fundamental gameplay and baseball IQ of MLB is so much better.

[MizzouRah]

Next time you get a freeze, try putting the game in sleep mode and then back on again.

Yeah, I tried that each time it froze along with giving it plenty of time to "wake up" and hitting every button

I'm playing on default Pro. It's nice to see that the lefty bug has been crushed. I have about the same amount of homeruns from both sides and I've seen a realistic amount of opposite field power.

Do you think the meter is harder than MVP 2005? I'm not just talking about the cursor placement either. It really brings some intensity back to the game because I'm having a bit of trouble hitting my spots at times.

That sucks leebo, I hope it's just a copy error or a scratched cd.

Yes, I find the meter harder than 2005. I'm telling you, even with perfect meter placement, the CPU will hit you on Pro using the btp view. I also like the fact that in MVP using the btp view, it tells you the speed of the pitch, unlike MLB. Detroit just put a shalacking on me 12-4. I'm seeing a tad too many diving catches (2004 issue) as well as maybe a triple too many, but sliders will fix that. Besides that and putting the pitch speed on -50, this game has grown on me and I plan on starting my season tonight with the Cardinals.

Another 2004 version tidbit I like is the CPU will steal on you when you least expect that and I'm always behind on the throw. They stole 3rd base on me a few games ago that caught me sleeping.

Edit: I know it's personal preference, but I like the one button pitching in MVP vs the two clicks in MLB. I hope MLB switches to one button next year.

Todd

[Badgun]

I'm with Leebo...I have no idea what games you are playing Badgun.

I'm was MLB's biggest supporter before the season (while not liking MVP 2004 at all and liking the core game of MLB 2005). While they did deliver on a really solid baseball game that I definitely could play if it was the only game on the block (see February '06), but MVP just came out of no where this year to deliver on one of the most complete baseball games to hit the market in a long time. Sure, High Head with some mod's on the PC did better, but for a stand alone console baseball game...MVP has definitely been the best console baseball game of this generation.

I guess I'm just not as baseball savvy as badgun and the others than swear the fundamental gameplay and baseball IQ of MLB is so much better.

Well maybe you're not, but I can give you countless examples of where MVP fails miserably in on the field play and the AI department.

1. Next time you hit into a double play behind the bag at 2nd, watch how it plays out. The flip to second is pretty normal, but watch how the second baseman literally warps around the sliding runner. The slide steps are so fast it's laughable...no one can move that fast.

2. Whoever said the diving catches were gone is lying. They are still their and happen way too much for my liking. I agree with Jrod here especially when someone says the variety of hits in MVP is so much better. Not only are the diving catches still there, but the shortstop and 1st baseman still run way into the outfield and catch balls they shouldn't. Watch a real baseball game and then tell me how many times you see the shortstop run backwards 40 yards to make a catch the left fielder could easily come in and catch.

3. Many, many scoring errors. I can't tell you how many balls I've seen go by a diving infielder only to be ruled an error, but if he gets a glove on it and it bounces off, it's a hit. Hit a high fly to right last night with Pujols and the ball bounced high into the corner and even though Pujols made it to 3rd, they gave him a single and a 2 base error even though the fielder could not get to the ball.

4. Idiotic features like charge the mound when you get hit by a pitch. Let's see, do I want to charge the mound and get my guy thrown out or do I want to not press that button and keep him in the game? What idiot thought that one up?

5. AI letting pitchers bat in obvious PH situations, but that's been covered before.

6. All of the above covered gameplay issues, now let's go cosmetic. Commentary in MLB blows MVP away and you know it...we all know it. If you tell me that you disagree, then you're just in denial. Presentation is another area where MLB flat blows the doors off of MVP. No contest.

7. Player models. Again, this is subjective, but MVP's player models all look like defensive tackles whereas MLB's models look and move a lot more lifelike.

8. Doesn't mean much to me, but batter walkups in MLB are dead on and tons better than MVP as are the homerun trots. Watch a guy take a homrun trot in MVP, they still go to first and hang a sharp left like they are on a track while the guys in MLB round the bag as they should.

9. Both the hitting and pitching model are light years ahead of MVP. This crap of pushing up to hit a homerun, even on a low pitch is a joke. MLB actually has you placing the bat on the ball and then it goes in which ever direction it should go based on how you hit it. If anyone can tell me how MVP's is better, I've gotta hear it...it should be entertaining. As I ahve always said, I do like MVP's fielding model better.


I could go on all day, but I'm tired of typing and I know I'm wasting my time with you anyway since you're the resident know-it-all, but cosmetically MLB absolutely destorys MVP and I think it plays a better game in the field as well. I will give you MVP's variety of hits, but I still think all the diving catches really hurt the variety. Again, MVP is technically sound and that is why I am playing it instead of MLB, but that is the only reason. Without the freeze ups, I would have dumped MVP a long time ago.

MVP is a very good game, but it's certainly not the gaming nirvana that you proclaim it is.

[dbdynsty25]

LOL...That was an amusing 2 min. read. I needed a good laugh this morning. Thanks!

[Leebo33]

MLB actually has you placing the bat on the ball and then it goes in which ever direction it should go based on how you hit it.

True, but the implementation is flawed IMO because it is almost impossible to hit a ball out of the strike zone in MLB. I would be willing to play anyone online to prove it. I'll just aim for spots right outside the strike zone with every pitch and we will see how many you can hit. I don't think it's possible in MLB to hit a pitch if it is more than the width of a baseball away from the strike zone.

[Slumberland]

9. Both the hitting and pitching model are light years ahead of MVP. This crap of pushing up to hit a homerun, even on a low pitch is a joke. MLB actually has you placing the bat on the ball and then it goes in which ever direction it should go based on how you hit it. If anyone can tell me how MVP's is better, I've gotta hear it...it should be entertaining. As I ahve always said, I do like MVP's fielding model better.

I'll bite on this one. I honestly can't go back to any of the other hitting systems after the MVP one clicked with me... I just think EA does a bad job of explaining it. It's a timing system (and an unforgiving one at that), where the left stick controls what kind of swing you put on the ball. That's it, that's all.

What's so weird about pushing up to try and get the ball in the air? If the ball's left a bit up and over the plate, it gives you the chance to put a bit of an uppercut swing on it. You can do that same thing with a low pitch (and anyone who saw Beltran in last year's playoffs will tell you it's possible), it's just tougher to time because you've got to get the bat head out there sooner or else you'll drive it into the ground.

The same goes for inside/outside... see a pitch on the outside corner, and you can push the left stick that way and slap it into the opposite field. Try that with an inside pitch, and you end up looking foolish, because that kind of swing is not meant for that kind of pitch.

Honestly, zone batting at this point feels like Extreme Tic-Tac-Toe, not baseball. Not interested.

[Badgun]

9. Both the hitting and pitching model are light years ahead of MVP. This crap of pushing up to hit a homerun, even on a low pitch is a joke. MLB actually has you placing the bat on the ball and then it goes in which ever direction it should go based on how you hit it. If anyone can tell me how MVP's is better, I've gotta hear it...it should be entertaining. As I ahve always said, I do like MVP's fielding model better.

I'll bite on this one. I honestly can't go back to any of the other hitting systems after the MVP one clicked with me... I just think EA does a bad job of explaining it. It's a timing system (and an unforgiving one at that), where the left stick controls what kind of swing you put on the ball. That's it, that's all.

What's so weird about pushing up to try and get the ball in the air? If the ball's left a bit up and over the plate, it gives you the chance to put a bit of an uppercut swing on it. You can do that same thing with a low pitch (and anyone who saw Beltran in last year's playoffs will tell you it's possible), it's just tougher to time because you've got to get the bat head out there sooner or else you'll drive it into the ground.

The same goes for inside/outside... see a pitch on the outside corner, and you can push the left stick that way and slap it into the opposite field. Try that with an inside pitch, and you end up looking foolish, because that kind of swing is not meant for that kind of pitch.

Honestly, zone batting at this point feels like Extreme Tic-Tac-Toe, not baseball. Not interested.

I realize what you're saying and I don't disagree with you based on the examples that you've given, but use that same logic to push the stick up on a very low ball and you will get very unrealistic results. First of all, it's not really humanly possible to swing up on a low ball. You can golf it and get the ball to come up, but the whole idea of pushing up on the stick on a very low ball just seems wrong.

I agree with you that it's very easy to "go with" a pitch and I've had a lot of success slapping a ball to the right side to move a guy over or even placing it where the defense ain't.

I still think that MLB's system is much better and overall will yield more realistic batting stats.

[GTHobbes]

There's nothing the MLB fans can say that will convince the MVP fans that MLB is the better game, and vice versa. Guess we should just leave it at that. The only thing that bugs me is when DB says things like, "MVP for XBox is the King" and "MVP is the best console baseball game of this generation," without qualifying it as his opinion. Not sure why it bothers me to read that crap when he does it all the time, across genres, but it does all the same. Maybe I should just ignore it like everyone else does.

[Leebo33]

There's nothing the MLB fans can say that will convince the MVP fans that MLB is the better game, and vice versa. Guess we should just leave it at that. The only thing that bugs me is when DB says things like, "MVP for XBox is the King" and "MVP is the best console baseball game of this generation," without qualifying it as his opinion. Not sure why it bothers me to read that crap when he does it all the time, across genres, but it does all the same. Maybe I should just ignore it like everyone else does.

The only reason it bugs you is because you hate EA. I could probably pull a quote from most posters here who have made such statements about one game or another without qualification. Heck, I probably could pull 10 statements alone about Forza. Somewhere lurking, there are some highly annoyed GT4 fans out there.

[dbdynsty25]

There's nothing the MLB fans can say that will convince the MVP fans that MLB is the better game, and vice versa. Guess we should just leave it at that. The only thing that bugs me is when DB says things like, "MVP for XBox is the King" and "MVP is the best console baseball game of this generation," without qualifying it as his opinion. Not sure why it bothers me to read that crap when he does it all the time, across genres, but it does all the same. Maybe I should just ignore it like everyone else does.

I've only claimed that one other time...Forza. And I don't need to go into WHY because I've done that in the MVP Impressions thread. And not qualifying it as my opinion...OF COURSE IT'S MY F*CKING OPINION. Had I said:

"100% of DSP users agree...MVP is the king on the Xbox" you'd have a contention. But why would I be stating SOMEONE ELSE'S opinion. I personally like to use my own opinion when typing on message boards. Maybe you like to use other's opinions, but I don't.

Plus, why do you need to read the same things over and over again? I don't like typing that much. If you don't agree with my assessment, fine...but don't say I never qualified those statements because I have.

Why are you being a b*tch? This is a first GT...you usually post pretty good info without all the b*tching and moaning like some of the other whiners around here.

[Leebo33]

Anyway, I do agree that it will never be settled. You either "get" the game or you don't. I'm lucky enough to love and hate both of them at the same time usually switching my adoration bi-weekly

[dbdynsty25]

Anyway, I do agree that it will never be settled. You either "get" the game or you don't. I'm lucky enough to love and hate both of them at the same time usually switching my adoration bi-weekly

Correct...I've got MVP for my console (greatest baseball game ever) and MLB for my PSP (greatest psp baseball game ever). It's the best of both worlds...

[GTHobbes]

Why are you being a b*tch? This is a first GT...you usually post pretty good info without all the b*tching and moaning like some of the other whiners around here.

Sorry man...something about the MVP blather just rubbed me the wrong way. It's those kinds of "EA made the perfect game"-type comments that led me to getting fed the same ol' Madden engine for 10 years, when they could have been removing the Mario Running, Suction Blocking, 40 yard drop-back qb and other similar issues. Since there won't be an MVP next year, I guess it doesn't matter.

But you guys are right...similar comments have probably been made about Forza and other games and I just never noticed.

[DivotMaker]

There's nothing the MLB fans can say that will convince the MVP fans that MLB is the better game, and vice versa. Guess we should just leave it at that.

I respect your opinion even though I know that you despise EA. I don't think it is any secret how I feel about EA, but I am objective enough to know when there are times they deserve criticism because I am usually there to join in. Back on the topic of MLB versus MVP, I have now played roughly 35 full games in Season mode in MLB (PSP). I have had my fill of the passed ball issue. I had FIVE of them in ONE inning in a game today costing me a ball game. That is nuts. If I were not still in West Africa, I would have a copy of MVP (PSP) to compare it to. I will save my comparisons for obvious reasons when I return Thursday and begin to play it on my next trip Saturday.

I have played MVP for PC and I like that game a great deal. I am not the videogame baseball afficianados that some of you are, but both series have flaws, some cosmetic, some critical. The only critical flaw I have discovered so far is the passed ball issue in MLB (PSP). I can also agree with the rocket arms issue as it is a common occurrence to have 3 hits in an inning yet not score a single run. I have also seen WAY too many line drives hit RIGHT at a fielder. I get 12-15 of those per game which is half my at bats. Sorry, but that is not realistic either.

I realize this is a one-sided commentary as my complaints stem from MLB's shortcomings. I will be selling the game as soon as I return home because if I lose another game today due to a computer-generated passed ball, I will need a new PSP....

[dbdynsty25]

Sorry man...something about the MVP blather just rubbed me the wrong way. It's those kinds of "EA made the perfect game"-type comments that led me to getting fed the same ol' Madden engine for 10 years, when they could have been removing the Mario Running, Suction Blocking, 40 yard drop-back qb and other similar issues. Since there won't be an MVP next year, I guess it doesn't matter.

It's all good. It's understandable, especially when you have a severe hatred for a particular company. I'm not a fan of EA either, but I'm still subjective when it comes to gaming. I can hate a company and their practices and still have fun with their games because I separate the two. You may not be able to do that, and that's fine...it's not a bad thing, it's just a difference in philosophy.

By claiming I say "so and so game is the best ever" on a regular basis is just wrong though. That is what bothered me. It just so happens that I've said it twice in the last month...but that is pretty much it.

EA Sports as a whole has went back and forth with their games. NBA Live is much improved, NHL regressed big time, and Madden is well, Madden (I personally liked it better than ESPN, but it's not because it was a great game).

Regardless...some people like MLB, some people like MVP and very few like 2k6. It doesn't matter why...and no one is going to change their opinion because of a message board. I refuse to go into detail of explaining why so and so game is great because it's pointless...because, like I said, you'll never change anyone's opinion...especially if there is an underlying hatred for the company that produces the game. Agree or disagree, that's just the way it is.

BTW Divot...I still have yet to see the influx of pass balls in MLB on the PSP. I'm about 1/3 through a season and I have seen maybe 30...less than .5 per game. Either I'm doing something right, or not doing whatever you guys are doing wrong (or I got a special copy that doesn't include it)....so I don't know what to tell those of you who have all kinds of MLB pass ball issues.

[GTHobbes]

I respect your opinion even though I know that you despise EA.

For the record, I don't despise EA. They were the ones who pretty much started it all, back when they introduced Madden and NHL on the Genesis. (I'm not counting the Odyssey 2, Atari, Intellivision or NES days). I gave them $50 a year for those games for a long time, and very much looked forward to doing so.

I do despise what they did with the Triple Play series for all those years, and I also despise what they've done (or not done) with Madden and NHL since the mid-90s. Most of my problem is with Tiburon, who I frankly believe does not have the best talent. But if I honestly believed EA put out the best baseball game on the market, whether it was made by Tiburon or another developer, I would own it and play it to death. I didn't have any respect for 989 until last year, but they've won me over again and I'm already looking forward to next year's game. Hopefully, EA will do that again with some of their franchises on the next gen systems.

Edit: Almost forgot...I do despise EA for putting ESPN NFL out of business, and am not sure how long it will take for me to get over that one. But my hatred there, for the time being, is limited to football. If EA buys out the NHL or CHoops license, then I'll be similarly pissed.

[MizzouRah]

Both games have issues, heck what game doesn't?

I just wonder why MVP for the psp has been bashed so much? Considering the platform, it plays quite well. I'm in agreement that the passed balls issue in MLB along with the rocket arms and lack of any presentation ruin it for me on the psp. MVP on the psp is no MVP 2005 for the Xbox, but it's definitly not a bad game to play by any means.

Xbox - MVP 2005
PS2 - MLB 2006 (MVP looks terrible on the ps2, really washed out) ..and MLB looks and plays quite well overall when you add the presentation and commentary.
PSP - MVP

Edit: As far as hitting goes, I liked the ease of last year's WS baseball game.

Todd

[Badgun]

Why are you being a b*tch? This is a first GT...you usually post pretty good info without all the b*tching and moaning like some of the other whiners around here.

Sorry man...something about the MVP blather just rubbed me the wrong way. It's those kinds of "EA made the perfect game"-type comments that led me to getting fed the same ol' Madden engine for 10 years, when they could have been removing the Mario Running, Suction Blocking, 40 yard drop-back qb and other similar issues. Since there won't be an MVP next year, I guess it doesn't matter.

Well the people that call it the perfect game are both dumb and blind as I can list tons of flaws. A perfect game would not have any flaws or the flaws would be so minimal they would be a non factor. MVP has many visible flaws that do affect the gameplay..of course guys like db that have their blinders on don't see them or find a way to justify them.

MVP is a very good game, hell it's a great game and I enjoy playing it. It's just not even close to the holy grail that db claims it is, but there's one thing you have to remember...everything db likes is the best...period and all the arguing in the world won't convince him otherwise.