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dbdynsty25 wrote:Exactly what I did. Remodeled the office since I work from home now. Couch for mid-day naps and guests and a new TV setup on the wall. :)
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pk500 wrote:
dbdynsty25 wrote:Exactly what I did. Remodeled the office since I work from home now. Couch for mid-day naps and guests and a new TV setup on the wall. :)
Welcome to the world of telecommuting. I've been doing it since April 1994, for three companies. What took you so long? :)

Can't beat it. I don't think I ever could go back to work in an office.
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Wilk5280 wrote:I'm very impressed by the low input lag on the 8000 series. Used the calibration settings from the link above (thanks btw) and am loving this TV.

My One S is still downstairs in the cave, but once I get some time I'm going to bring that up into the main living room and swap out with the launch day system. Can't wait to see how BF1, FH3, and 2K17 look on this bad boy.

What I really need to do is run into a little more money and upgrade the TV downstairs with the 55" version of this TV (don't have room for 65, that's why it's up in the main living room).
Well, now I am looking for more money as it seems that my 5 year old Denon AVR 1912 can't pass through 4K signals, but can pass through everything else including 3D content. Hooked up the new 4K box and 4K is not one of the resolutions available when the Denon is used as a pass through. Bypassing the receiver, 4K works perfectly. What I am trying to determine now is if I can find a way to use my receiver to play the TV content through the Optical cable only through the receiver using Zone 2 which does not require video. If I can do that, then I can wait for another $500+ receiver. There are currently only 2 channels on DirecTV that are 4K. If not, I will stick with 1080p content as that work perfectly through the receiver and my Klipsch Sub and speaker system. I was surprised at the sound quality of the TV itself. Not at all bad, but I do miss my subwoofer. Really impressed with the screen and all of the different options. The link to that website above was a HUGE help!
Dead end. Need new receiver than can do 4K pass through.
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sportdan30 wrote:
Danimal wrote:Target has the 60 inch Samsung UN60KU6300 for $689 on Black Friday, I'm aiming for one of these for a spare room in the house. Anyone feedback on this unit?
Does this tv have HDR? If so, I might try and snag it too!
No. Has a HDR+ mode but it's a Samsung thing...not true HDR.
So does this mean it won't do HDR for the newer consoles?
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Danimal wrote:So does this mean it won't do HDR for the newer consoles?
Right. You've gotta move up to the 700 series to get built in HDR. Like this one:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-55- ... Id=5146801
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And if you're going to pay 899 for that one, you might as well go up 100 more and get the 8000 series.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-55- ... Id=5034800

granted, it's only on sale this week.
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Hmm then it is no longer in deal territory.

I'd rather have more inches then HDR.
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Danimal wrote:Hmm then it is no longer in deal territory.

I'd rather have more inches then HDR.
That's why I didn't get an HDR tv...don't really care about it. Give me 4K @ 55 or 60 inches and I'm cool w/ that.
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Outside of a few models, today's HDR reminds me of the old EDTVs. Feel like it is worth waiting around for the technology to figure itself out over the coming months/year/
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dbdynsty25 wrote:
Danimal wrote:Hmm then it is no longer in deal territory.

I'd rather have more inches then HDR.
That's why I didn't get an HDR tv...don't really care about it. Give me 4K @ 55 or 60 inches and I'm cool w/ that.
Agreed. My non HDR 65" Vizio 4K is plenty good. Watchdogs 2 and Uncharted are beautiful on it.
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Taking my new 55" Sammy back to BB for an exchange. Sound randomly cuts out for one second on the set and I am going to get a replacement while I can. It is a PIA taking these things back and setting up again.....trying to convince the wife it is time to get the new AV receiver......
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I did surround for awhile, but I finally decided to just go with a soundbar. I would never rely on a TV for speakers after having used 5.1 sound for so long, but there are some really nice soundbars out there.

I'm using a Samsung 3.1 soundbar. It has six speakers in the bar, and wireless subwoofer. It's pretty fantastic. It's nowhere near as immersive as true surround, but it really cleans up the audio, giving you that center channel to isolate dialogue, and just provides a rich all sound.
it also has bluetooth, so you can play music from your iPhone other device pretty easily.

It does have an option to add two wireless surround speakers, but I haven't found that to be worth the hassle yet. It's been kind of nice to simplify and get rid of wires. We live in an old brick home on the city that just would not make sense t o customize for surround. If i get a manacle going in the basement, I might revisit 5.1 or 7.1 again.

It does help that we only use the XB1. We run out TiVo Roamio through the console, so I can just run an optical cable to the soundbar and the HDMI to the TV. Getting a second console would complicate that set-up. I think I could just run HDMI from a second console to the TV directly, and then HDMI from the TV to the soundbar. The only problem is that it seems like my TV only outputs stereo over HDMI. That's not a deal breaker, but definitely a drawback.

It might be better than going with a new AV receiver.
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Aristo wrote:I did surround for awhile, but I finally decided to just go with a soundbar. I would never rely on a TV for speakers after having used 5.1 sound for so long, but there are some really nice soundbars out there. I'm using a Samsung 3.1 soundbar. It has six speakers in the bar, and wireless subwoofer. It's pretty fantastic. It's nowhere near as immersive as true surround, but it really cleans up the audio, giving you that center channel to isolate dialogue, and just provides a rich all sound.
Got the same one...definitely happy I got the 3.1 instead of the 2.1...and spent the extra 100 bucks. Gives you that center channel the others lack. Great way to clean up your install and still have some quality sound, especially in smaller rooms/dens/basements.
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Wilk5280 wrote:And if you're going to pay 899 for that one, you might as well go up 100 more and get the 8000 series.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-55- ... Id=5034800

granted, it's only on sale this week.
That's the exact TV I just bought on Saturday. After getting a PS4 Pro and my 4K TV couldn't do HDR, I had to fix that. Then I didn't have an XBox One S....so had to fix that too.

I'm really impressed by HDR in some games, but I barely had any time with it on Saturday night, and was gone all day on Sunday. So I'll have to sit down and tinker with settings this week to see what it can really do.

I'm just a sucker for "new tech", and can't imagine I ever WON'T be.
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There's supposedly some good HDR content on Netflix though you might have to pay extra for the 4K streaming content.

Marco Polo series on Dolby Vision sets like the LG OLED TVs is getting rave reviews on AVS.
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My buddy and I have a strong interest in the LG B6 65' model. We're hoping to get some kind of a deal if we buy it together. HDR and Dolby Vision compatible, problem is how do I explain the extra cost to the wife. And we're not talking just a few bucks. 8)
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10spro wrote:My buddy and I have a strong interest in the LG B6 65' model. We're hoping to get some kind of a deal if we buy it together. HDR and Dolby Vision compatible, problem is how do I explain the extra cost to the wife. And we're not talking just a few bucks. 8)

Monitor this thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/322-oled- ... ls-45.html

Now the C6 model is the same price as the B6. Supposedly has a better processor and supports 3D. However, it's slightly curved, which most people aren't too crazy about.
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wco81 wrote:
10spro wrote:My buddy and I have a strong interest in the LG B6 65' model. We're hoping to get some kind of a deal if we buy it together. HDR and Dolby Vision compatible, problem is how do I explain the extra cost to the wife. And we're not talking just a few bucks. 8)

Monitor this thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/322-oled- ... ls-45.html

Now the C6 model is the same price as the B6. Supposedly has a better processor and supports 3D. However, it's slightly curved, which most people aren't too crazy about.
Our current Samsung is mounted on a wall. No interest in any curve TV or the LG that comes with a sound bar. But another buddy of mine just loves the curve technology as he has it set up in his basement. There won't be any BF deals either on this model I am told, so yeah the question is, is it worth all $4500 CAD that they are asking? :)
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Wow, that's about $1000 more than what you can get in the US.

I would say no because the main 4K content you have now are Netflix and Amazon and UHD Blu Ray, which is still kind of pricey.

It may be another couple of years before there's any 4K TV shows, especially live sports (though in Toronto, you can subscribe to an IPTV service that does the home games of the Raptors and Mapleleafs in 4K and HDR).

Pretty sure there will be good improvements every year for OLED for several years.

So it might make more sense to spend minimally and then upgrade in 3-4 years. By then the TVs may come with ATSC 3.0 tuners and maybe someone will pay to do the 2018 WC and the Winter Olympics in 4K. Then gradually NBA and NFL games -- though the Chicago Bulls at Denver game tomorrow will be shown in 4K on DirecTV supposedly.


I might bite if those 65-inchers were available under $2000 delivered but otherwise, not in a big hurry.
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So the TV I'm looking at is on ale already at Best Buy same price but reading the description it says it upscales to 4K. So how can they list this as a 4K TV. DB you have this model is that correct?

So now I'm thinking of going with the one Terry got and Wilks mentioned but I kind of want a 60 inch. Seems silly 60 over 55 and I hear a lot of people say it's stupid to get a 60 and should go a 65. That 60 inch model of the 800 is $500 more then the one I was looking at.

Not sure what to do but going to pull the trigger today. I really don't care much about HDR but if it's not really 4K then that seems like a waste. Maybe I go with the 55 inch 4K 800 model. Ughh...
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If you want bigger, no sense getting a 60" when you can get 65" for the price.

Only thing I wanted was a gaming TV, and I sit pretty close to the screen, so that was too big for me. For gaming, I like to get a slightly smaller screen, and the HDR added on was unquestionably jaw-dropping in the limited tests I had so far.

Hope you are happy with whatever you decide, man! It's not easy, for sure. :lol:
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wco81 wrote:There's supposedly some good HDR content on Netflix though you might have to pay extra for the 4K streaming content.

Marco Polo series on Dolby Vision sets like the LG OLED TVs is getting rave reviews on AVS.
I am getting Netflix 4K content and not paying any extra. And it looks INCREDIBLE on my new Sammy 55 8500 Curved with HDR. HDR delivers some incredible blacks.....not OLED worthy, but DAMN close. In fact, I struggle to see a difference with my 58 year old 20/20 eyes.....
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Going with the 60 inch 8000 series, what kind of remote does it come with?

Wife gave the ok on that one, she didn't want the smaller 55 inch because of the white space it has around our entertainment center. Maybe I can talk her into the 65 :)

Current 55 inch Samsung UHD with 3D gets moved to the new room for the kids. Kind of a dent in the plan as that new room was going to be my console room but whatever. Happy wife, Happy Life.
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Danimal wrote:So the TV I'm looking at is on ale already at Best Buy same price but reading the description it says it upscales to 4K. So how can they list this as a 4K TV. DB you have this model is that correct?

So now I'm thinking of going with the one Terry got and Wilks mentioned but I kind of want a 60 inch. Seems silly 60 over 55 and I hear a lot of people say it's stupid to get a 60 and should go a 65. That 60 inch model of the 800 is $500 more then the one I was looking at.

Not sure what to do but going to pull the trigger today. I really don't care much about HDR but if it's not really 4K then that seems like a waste. Maybe I go with the 55 inch 4K 800 model. Ughh...
It is freaking gorgeous, especially in 4K. The HDR does make a difference. Can't comment on games as I still have just the Xbox One Elite and no S or PS4 Pro.....get the 65" with HDR....I don't believe you will regret it.
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Now I just need to figure out how to get 4K from my Direct TV and Netflicks. I'm sure DirectTV must charge for it they do everything else.
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