NFL 2016/2017

[Danimal]

Bradford looks dreadful

That's pretty much the best Bradford has looked in years. Barely knows the system, plays in a new stadium opener and out throws the "legend" Rodgers. Honestly he is a vast improvement on Bridgewater and if he continues to look good Teddy may not have a job next year. Bradford and Diggs were the only offense they had.

I know Rams fans think he sucks but f***in Fisher makes everyone look terrible, Plus how bad is Seattle at this point.

[dbdynsty25]

Different year, new coach, same results. The Phins are 0-2 and it's the same Tannehill every year. His numbers look good and you say how the hell did they lose but they did. Just admit that Tannehill is a backup QB at best. This team is already looking at an 8-8 maybe 9-7 season, again.

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/09/19/nfl- ... d-patriots

Read. Learn something.

Don't need to read because it's the same average team who got slaughtered by a backup QB with a team who didn't even have Gronk or Brady. As JJ likes to say the NFL is a results business and the results, show the Dolphins are still an average team. They're not terrible and they're not great. They play inconsistent just like an average team. When the Dolphins can bring it and play consistently on both sides of the ball for 4 Qtrs then give me a shout. What I saw Sunday was just the opposite.

You just need to stop being in denial.

Oh, don't get me wrong, they are an average team...maybe below average overall, but you have it out for Tannehill when he isn't the problem. My complaints about him in the past were that he holds on to the ball too long and takes sack, which w/ Adam Gase he has rectified through 2 games. He's made some ridiculously good throws (see the TD to Cameron yesterday). So I really don't have much to complain about when it comes to Tannehill. The defense on the other hand...poor at best. Clearly holding the Seahawks down the week before was just a mirage since clearly the Hawks have offensive problems.

Now...can you show me a team that's played consistently for four quarters YET this season? Maybe the Giants? Consistency is the unicorn of the NFL...teams just can't do it. It's the teams that can right the ship, make adjustments, etc that end up winning ballgames. Few and far between.

[10spro]

Bradford looks dreadful

That's pretty much the best Bradford has looked in years. Barely knows the system, plays in a new stadium opener and out throws the "legend" Rodgers. Honestly he is a vast improvement on Bridgewater and if he continues to look good Teddy may not have a job next year. Bradford and Diggs were the only offense they had.

I know Rams fans think he sucks but f***in Fisher makes everyone look terrible, Plus how bad is Seattle at this point.

Yeah, I don't know which game he was watching but I thought Bradford did a fine job hooking up with Diggs and more importantly no INT's. He may have looked out of sync in the first 10 minutes of the game but as the game wore on, he was fine.

Keep in mind also that the Vikings' game is made around the ground game and when Peterson left the game, there was no panic in him. With all the pressure for him to perform with Brigdewater out for the year, he did a solid job. Not sure about crowning him the starting QB over Teddy, as I much prefer the latter's mobility over Bradford. MIN's D was very good too putting pressure on Rodgers.

Regarding my Hawks, I feel for the 90.000+ fans that watched that horrible game. NO TD's, how exciting, but if you like defense plays, there was plenty of it. Right now, there's no ground game for SEA. Rawls is still raw, he's no Beastmode by any means, in fact Michael JR is getting his fair share of rushes. The plan is not to rush Rawls out of the gate though. With a sore ankle, R. Wilson was a non factor too but until the last play which resulted in Michaels' inability to hold on to the ball, I thought SEA still had a chance for a comeback as they did last week with MIA.

But the biggest problem for the Seahawks as I have mentioning last year even with Beastmode frequently injured is their OL. Wilson overthrew a few passes yesterday, was rushed and never quite felt comfortable. I would make a J. Graham for M. Unger trade again if I could. They need to do a better job of protecting Wilson. The offense will come eventually but right now, the OL must play better.

Give Rams credit for a good job neutralizing their running game, their DL is built perfectly to create problems for SEA. They may have sucked last MNF but they always beat SEA.

[fletcher21]

I made that comment about him looking dreadful early on. He ended up playing pretty solid. He took a ton of hits, so the o line needs to address that. Rodgers got hit hard a lot, too. Bradford showed the best flash we've seen since favre. Teddy is not a starting QB. He would make a fine backup, though. Bradford and diggs have a great connection, but so far he isn't in sync with anyone else. Assuming Carolina doubles diggs, this team needs someone to step up. Beaterson is out, so this is a break for McKinnon. I like him a lot, but he can't handle being an every down back. Packers were lucky to even be in that game. How many fumbles did GB recover?

[Danimal]

Cutler apologists out in full force this morning. He isn't the only problem on the Bears but he is a common denominator. I said it in June, 4 win team at best. Fox is an overrated coach, Pace has made questionable moves. WTF thought Langford could fill Forte's shoes? Hello Howard looks better than Langford.

People thought this organization was at rock bottom after Tresman, get ready we're about to hit rock bottom.

[Wilk5280]

Josh McDaniels did a lot of bad in Denver, but he certainly did good by running JC out of town.

[wco81]

JC?

He also drafted Tebow didn't he?

[Wilk5280]

JC?

He also drafted Tebow didn't he?

Jay Cutler (I wasn't a fan). He did also draft Tebow. I'm not sure I'd rank that in the + category.

[RobVarak]

Cutler apologists out in full force this morning. He isn't the only problem on the Bears but he is a common denominator. I said it in June, 4 win team at best. Fox is an overrated coach, Pace has made questionable moves. WTF thought Langford could fill Forte's shoes? Hello Howard looks better than Langford.

People thought this organization was at rock bottom after Tresman, get ready we're about to hit rock bottom.

I had and have no problem with losing Forte. If you get burned bc you cut a 30 year-old RB carrying that kind of cap hit, so be it. I can't understand why it's so freaking hard to put together a functional OL. Not world-beaters, not All-Pros from end-to-end...just average. Throughout the entire Houston game and that first drive yesterday it was a track meet for the opposing DL.

Pace has had the kind of uneven track record you'd expect from a first-time GM, and the injuries last night were bad enough to completely derail an already sad-looking season. Starting to detect the faint whiff of bust around Kevin White, which was a huge miss if it doesn't work out. OTOH, Pace was almost universally praised for the pick, so it's hard to see it as too great an indictment.

Fox hasn't done anything to deserve any praise yet either, but he'll be gone the next time this team makes the playoffs anyway.

[Danimal]

I had and have no problem with losing Forte. If you get burned bc you cut a 30 year-old RB carrying that kind of cap hit, so be it.

Yeah a 30 year old in great shape showing no signs of slowing down. Considering they didn't even make him an offer it's hard to play the cap game. Even if you agree with the move Langford is no replacement, he looks average at best. As I said I think I would put my time in Howard that kid has something.

[fletcher21]

I've liked cutler since he was in Denver. The bears should be throwing to Jeffery 15 times a game. With enough chances, he could be a top 5 wr in the league. Cutler looks bored of football, but he's got one of the best arms in the league. They need the Jeffery ratio like the Vikings had the moss ratio. Chuck it deep to him all game long and he'll catch it or draw pi. No 1 player can cover him 1 on 1. Id trade Teddy and Bradford for cutler today.

[Wilk5280]

I've liked cutler since he was in Denver. The bears should be throwing to Jeffery 15 times a game. With enough chances, he could be a top 5 wr in the league. Cutler looks bored of football, but he's got one of the best arms in the league. They need the Jeffery ratio like the Vikings had the moss ratio. Chuck it deep to him all game long and he'll catch it or draw pi. No 1 player can cover him 1 on 1. Id trade Teddy and Bradford for cutler today.

Wow! Just.... wow

[dbdynsty25]

I'd rather have Cutler than Bridgewater and Bradford as well...depending on the talent on my offensive line of course. The B's are terrible and I absolutely HATE Cutler. LOL.

[fletcher21]

I've liked cutler since he was in Denver. The bears should be throwing to Jeffery 15 times a game. With enough chances, he could be a top 5 wr in the league. Cutler looks bored of football, but he's got one of the best arms in the league. They need the Jeffery ratio like the Vikings had the moss ratio. Chuck it deep to him all game long and he'll catch it or draw pi. No 1 player can cover him 1 on 1. Id trade Teddy and Bradford for cutler today.

Wow! Just.... wow

Jay cutler knows he's on a terrible team. I have a feeling if he played in new England or Pittsburgh be would thrive. He turns it over a lot but he probably has the best arm in the NFL besides maybe Rodgers.

[MizzouRah]

The Rams would take Cutler in a heartbeat. I still can't believe they choose Goff over Wentz.. well yes I can since it was all a ploy to sell more tickets.

Goff will be out of football in 3 years.

[wco81]

Actually I heard that Kevin White is not explosive like he was when he was coming out.

[Wilk5280]

I've liked cutler since he was in Denver. The bears should be throwing to Jeffery 15 times a game. With enough chances, he could be a top 5 wr in the league. Cutler looks bored of football, but he's got one of the best arms in the league. They need the Jeffery ratio like the Vikings had the moss ratio. Chuck it deep to him all game long and he'll catch it or draw pi. No 1 player can cover him 1 on 1. Id trade Teddy and Bradford for cutler today.

Wow! Just.... wow

Jay cutler knows he's on a terrible team. I have a feeling if he played in new England or Pittsburgh be would thrive. He turns it over a lot but he probably has the best arm in the NFL besides maybe Rodgers.

OK, fair enough. As a Broncos fan I was glad to see him go, but one man's garbage is another man's treasure I guess.

He has one hell of an arm and all the physical traits to be great. He's got s*** between his ears and a terrible habit of throw off his back foot while fading away. Also I haven't witnessed a leadership bone in his body, but hey.. he's got a cannon!

[fletcher21]

So far it's been a pretty good year. I was shocked to see the raiders lose last week. I've always liked the raiders and the bonehead moves al Davis would make. Raiders offense is legit. If their defense can play even alright, they could make a run. I've been using them on Madden, and they are a solid team. Mack is overpowered as hell on the game which is pretty cool.

[fletcher21]

Sounds like there's concern the Vikings game could be moved or even postponed due to BLM riots. Crazy. Maybe play in atlanta is what I'm hearing

[Aristo]

Apologies to the still missing XXXIV (seriously, I hope he's okay):

[Brando70]

Cutler apologists out in full force this morning. He isn't the only problem on the Bears but he is a common denominator. I said it in June, 4 win team at best. Fox is an overrated coach, Pace has made questionable moves. WTF thought Langford could fill Forte's shoes? Hello Howard looks better than Langford.

People thought this organization was at rock bottom after Tresman, get ready we're about to hit rock bottom.

I had and have no problem with losing Forte. If you get burned bc you cut a 30 year-old RB carrying that kind of cap hit, so be it. I can't understand why it's so freaking hard to put together a functional OL. Not world-beaters, not All-Pros from end-to-end...just average. Throughout the entire Houston game and that first drive yesterday it was a track meet for the opposing DL.

Pace has had the kind of uneven track record you'd expect from a first-time GM, and the injuries last night were bad enough to completely derail an already sad-looking season. Starting to detect the faint whiff of bust around Kevin White, which was a huge miss if it doesn't work out. OTOH, Pace was almost universally praised for the pick, so it's hard to see it as too great an indictment.

Fox hasn't done anything to deserve any praise yet either, but he'll be gone the next time this team makes the playoffs anyway.

I agree pretty much all around. Forte has had two great weeks -- let's see how he does at the end of the season. I loved him as a Bear, but he didn't make sense when it was clear this team was not going to the playoffs this year even before the last two weeks.

With Pace, it is too early to tell, but what's frustrating is that neither of his #1 picks look like someone to get excited about. I can't fault him for the Kevin White pick, to me that pick made a lot of sense, it's just that White doesn't look like anything special. It's obviously too early to tell with Floyd, but it's a similar thing where you're wondering why him and not someone else (especially given all their needs). But he has made some nice picks with Eddie Goldman, Adrian Amos, Langford (still good for 4th round), and I think a number of the players from this year look promising. But you have to land your top pick to be successful.

Cutler needs to go. He's simply too careless to be a winning QB. It's frustrating because so many ingredients are there, but he simply turns over the ball too much and makes far too many bad decisions.

At this point, I am resigned to this being a debacle of a season, especially on offense. My one hope is that the D will evolve and improve because they do look better. They are just going to be on the field a lot.

[Danimal]

I agree pretty much all around. Forte has had two great weeks -- let's see how he does at the end of the season. I loved him as a Bear, but he didn't make sense when it was clear this team was not going to the playoffs this year even before the last two weeks.

The point is they have let players go with no suitable replacements. Langford is average at best, as I said I'd rather seem them run with Howard as he has an upside. I could sit here and list multiple players they let walk for numerous reasons (attitude, chemistry etc) but the stats show you these guys go elsewhere and perform and we fill in stiffs in return.

An all you f***ers who ant Cutler, he will be available shortly.

[fletcher21]

The patriots sure look good. That Texans team isn't nearly as bad as they looked. The afc playoffs will be awesome, assuming nothing drastic happens. Pittsburgh can finally make a run this year, along with new England and Denver. I'm calling it right now Pittsburgh vs new England in the afc championship game. This is a great season so far.

[10spro]

The patriots sure look good. That Texans team isn't nearly as bad as they looked. The afc playoffs will be awesome, assuming nothing drastic happens. Pittsburgh can finally make a run this year, along with new England and Denver. I'm calling it right now Pittsburgh vs new England in the afc championship game. This is a great season so far.

Not a bad pick, but I am a bit hesitant about their secondary. We'll find out how good Wentz is this weekend against PITs' secondary.

I still think DEN is a far better challenge to Hoodie, no matter who starts as QB for NE.

[Rodster]

I bet if the Rams could have a do over, they'd take Carson Wentz. Which goes to show the NFL Draft is such a crap shoot. Both Wentz and Goff where projected to be bust and so far Wentz is proving all the Draft experts wrong.