Kicking The Tires On A New TV...Advice Needed

[dbdynsty25]

Wow, no wonder my membership dues have gone up.

Yeah it's no joke. They are crazy...just return/exchange damn near anything. They have their "policy" to discourage it obviously.

[Inuyasha]

Hello All.

I've narrowed my search down to 2 tvs.

One is a Sony 60 in - it's 799 at bb but walmart has it for 699 so i can price match - http://tinyurl.com/kckuvpc

The other one is a 60in LG at Target. 799 for 60hz or 899 for 600hz. no idea what that means. (http://www.target.com/p/lg-60-class-108 ... rm=hdtv+60_


LG and Sony good companies for HDTV? I have like $300 in giftcards at Target so money wise I'd lean that way, but I do like the Sony brand name and wanted to know if there was any big difference between Sony and LG?

[bkrich83]

Hello All.

I've narrowed my search down to 2 tvs.

One is a Sony 60 in - it's 799 at bb but walmart has it for 699 so i can price match - http://tinyurl.com/kckuvpc

The other one is a 60in LG at Target. 799 for 60hz or 899 for 600hz. no idea what that means. (http://www.target.com/p/lg-60-class-108 ... rm=hdtv+60_


LG and Sony good companies for HDTV? I have like $300 in giftcards at Target so money wise I'd lean that way, but I do like the Sony brand name and wanted to know if there was any big difference between Sony and LG?

the hz refers to refresh rate. The higher the better, especially if you are going to game on it or watch sports. 60HZ is not going to be sufficient imo.

I have a pair of LG LED TV's (one 47" and one 55") my big TV is a Sharp, but I can say that I have zero complaints about the LG's and for my money they are amongst the best when it comes for bang for your buck.

[wco81]

If you think you'd have any interest in 4K or UHD TVs, I'd wait until later this year.

A fair number of 4K TVs were sold this past Christmas, because prices were slashed and they didn't carry much more premium over 1080p sets.

But there is now work towards 4K streaming and disc standards aimed for later this year. There could be products later this year or next year. First products could be pricey though.

Besides resolution increase, there would be increased color gamut and HDR.

However, it would mainly be TV and movie content. There wouldn't be sports broadcast in 4K for a long time if ever (though European and Japanese broadcasters have done test broadcasts at the World Cup and will be doing it for the upcoming Olympics).

Netflix and Amazon has indicated they will have 4K content. There is work on 4K or UHD Blu Ray being done, though no commitments from studios to release discs.

4K gaming may or may not happen in next gen consoles. They may support 4K movies, at least 4K Netflix, and 4K Blu Ray, if there are reasonable sales and discs.

[Rodster]

40" LG 4K HDTV $499.99 on Amazon, one day only sale.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00N45QF8Y/ref ... 1958457582

[Inuyasha]

What do you guys think of the following brands for HDTV :

Vizio
Samsung
Westinghouse
Sharp
LG

I was at Best Buy shopping around and see that non-4K tv's for these brands was much less than the Sony/Panasonic brands.

Any big drop off in quality for these brands? 50in for these brands was averaging around $500 1080p smart tvs.

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Another place I went today was Microsoft store. They had Madden 16 running on a 55 inch LG HDTV. What caught my eye was there seemed to be more pixelation on this output compared to my 8 year old Panasonic Plasma 1080i tv. Frankly I thought my older tv at home looked better. anyone explain why this is? Are the newer tv's that more detailed? Maybe that's why I don't notice the PS4 1080p vs XBO 940p comparisons as they all look almost the same on my tv.

[pk500]

Vizio and Sammy are the class of that list. Avoid Westinghouse like herpes -- lousy sets. My father had one that was pure garbage.

[Diablo25]

Vizio, LG and Samsung. I've had 2 Vizios and they have been money.

[tjung0831]

Very happy with my 2014 55in E series Vizio. Have had it about a year and a half now and I couldn't be happier.

[Inuyasha]

Tjung - I think I saw that one at target for 549. I got &300 gc there and was considering it. Good tv for gaming?

Anyone buy a tv at target before? Any plus/minus?

[tjung0831]

Tjung - I think I saw that one at target for 549. I got &300 gc there and was considering it. Good tv for gaming?

Anyone buy a tv at target before? Any plus/minus?

TV has been fantastic for gaming. I got my 2014 model at Costco...It was like $679 plus tax at the time. Crazy thing was that I wanted their 2014 M Series at the time but it was about a month away from being released so I bought the E series, thinking I'll just return it in a month but it was so good right off the bat that I just decided to keep it.

[dbdynsty25]

I would NOT recommend an E series personally unless you're under 47/42"...the panel just isn't good enough once you get to the bigger sizes. Lots of bleed and the corners are horrible (way darker usually)...so unless you're at like a 42" you should look elsewhere or spend a little extra money.

I made the mistake of getting a 65" E series and I returned that cheap piece of crap in a day. My wife even noticed how bad it was and that's extremely rare. She said you buy the best of everything why'd you buy a sh*tty TV, lol. So now I have a 60" 4K Samsung. LOL. Bad when the wife tells me to spend more money. But whatever.

[Inuyasha]

I was thinking just biting the bullet and buying a 65-70 in 4k. How did you research into deciding the Samsung you bought? I've gone to avs forums but there you don't want to buy anything after you read that forum.

Since everything is led now does it enhance everything for gaming? Or is it more negative compared to plasmas?

[dbdynsty25]

I was thinking just biting the bullet and buying a 65-70 in 4k. How did you research into deciding the Samsung you bought? I've gone to avs forums but there you don't want to buy anything after you read that forum.

Since everything is led now does it enhance everything for gaming? Or is it more negative compared to plasmas?

I saw a buddies and I was sold on the Samsung JU6500 series until I read this review of how it handles motion and gaming...and I just bit the bullet and went up to the JU7100. I'm sure I'd have been perfectly happy w/ the 6500 but just knowing that a little more money would add a few needed features based on how I watch and use a tv made it a no brainer.

http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-bra ... ung/ju6500

and got:

http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-bra ... ung/ju7100

Looks great for gaming...I've never used a plasma for gaming so I can't really compare. And yeah, AVS Forums is bad times.

[pk500]

My plasma is terrific for gaming because of the deep colors and 600 hZ refresh rate.

Can you even buy a new plasma TV anymore in the U.S.? Panasonic stopped making them last year. I thought Panny was the last company to produce them.

[wco81]

My plasma is terrific for gaming because of the deep colors and 600 hZ refresh rate.

Can you even buy a new plasma TV anymore in the U.S.? Panasonic stopped making them last year. I thought Panny was the last company to produce them.

I think Samsung made some for awhile afterwards.

However, plasma is too power-hungry when it comes to 4K and HDR. So Panasonic just showed off a 65-inch OLED 4K in Berlin this past week. It will retail initially for 10k Euros or over $11k.

I wouldn't spend too much money on a TV now, see if 4K takes off. There is a 4K Blu Ray spec announced and there are tests of 4K broadcasts but nobody has declared they're going to produce a lot of 4K content in the US. The networks are monitoring the tests but they'd have to invest in 4K cameras and other equipment.

4K TVs are becoming cheaper but all you may have to play are Netflix and Amazon 4K streams, which may not even be as good as a good Blu Ray disc.

[dbdynsty25]

4K TVs are becoming cheaper but all you may have to play are Netflix and Amazon 4K streams, which may not even be as good as a good Blu Ray disc.

To me, the jump to 4K is really only necessary if you go bigger than 55". When stretching that 1080P res across a TV that big of course it's not going to look as good as a smaller model. So when I wanted to get a bigger main TV than my 55", I almost had to go 4K. Given the fact that there are 4K streams now like you said, makes it almost a guarantee that they continue to pump out content. The original content alone on Netflix makes it worth the slight jump in cost over traditional HD TVs. So there's really no need to wait IMO.

[wco81]

You can certainly get value out of them, especially some models are around $1000 or even cheaper.

If you have any interest in 4K Blu Ray, with HDR then maybe see what happens over the next year with HDR support, players, discs.

If you're interested in OLED, maybe wait a couple of years for lower prices, better consistency, maybe Samsung re-entering the market. Or you can get a "cheap" 4K TV now and then see about upgrading in a few years.

As with HDTV, live sports will be one of the killer apps. content-wise for 4K. There is an HFR standard for UHD Blu Ray, supporting at least 60fps. So if TVs support it, then it could benefit sports broadcasts.

But all this is a big if. Local TV stations are under pressure to give up spectrum for mobile networks, where the money is, while TV viewing is in decline. So are they going to upgrade the stations and the networks going to push out 4K content? There's work being done on 4K broadcasts but whether the TV industry adopts it and gets the federal govt. to support a rollout is far from certain.

Europe and Japan are more aggressive about producing 4K content, including soccer games and Olympics and other sports.

[Brando70]

While I agree that buying a TV specifically for 4k is premature, a lot of the best TVs available are 4k tvs. I didn't buy mine specifically for 4k, but the picture quality was too good for me to pass up.

And 4k from Netflix and Amazon has looked fantastic. I agree that you probably can't tell the difference between a 4k feed and a 1080p one unless you're very close to the set, but I also think you wouldn't be able to spot a Blu-Ray playing the same content.

The simple fact is the best time to buy a TV is when you need/want one. There is ALWAYS another new development around the bend. The rapid expansion of home bandwith and the proliferation of 4k TVs probably means they will stick and become the standard in the coming years, even if broadcast networks take a while to catch up.

[sportdan30]

Every Toronto Blue Jays game will be televised in 4K along with 20 Maple Leafs games. This would get me seriously looking at a 4K tv if that was the case with the Cardinals and Blues.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/5/94555 ... net-sports

[wco81]

US is just testing the 4K broadcasts now.

It's uncertain if broadcasters would see a return from the investments they have to make.

The generation of kids growing up with smart phones and tablets are watching tv shows and movies on mobile devices so big 4K TVs aren't the big draws you'd think they would be.

ATSC 3.0 is incompatible with the current ATSC 1.0 system. Optimistic projections say 2020, maybe 2018.

DirecTV may throw up some movie and special events channels.

But for now, it looks like Netflix and Amazon 4K streaming, UHD Blu Ray next year.

Maybe a service like HBO Now will get a jump, possibly ESPN if they offer an online streaming version of their channels which doesn't require a cable subscription.

But 4K streams, if they steal tv subscribers, could get cable companies to enforce caps.

[sportdan30]

Just bought a M series Vizio 50" (paid $629) for our spare bedroom/den. I am absolutely amazed at how gorgeous the picture quality is. Extremely happy with my purchase.

[Diablo25]

Just bought a M series Vizio 50" (paid $629) for our spare bedroom/den. I am absolutely amazed at how gorgeous the picture quality is. Extremely happy with my purchase.

I am a big Vizio fan. Can't beat the picture and price.

[AcemanPR]

Have had my 70" Vizio for 2 1/2 years and have been extremely happy with it!

[tjung0831]

Will be two years in April with my 2014 Vizio 55E series and I absolutely love it. Recently added the new Vizio sound stand to it as well and that's really made a difference. Haven't had any exterior audio with my TV's in over 20 years so this is a nice change of pace.