dbdynsty25 wrote:Trust me, you will not. He lost 3 games by himself, literally, no hyperbole, last season. Ask any Dolphin fan and they will share my opinion (Rod?). You'll see. 1,000 yard seasons mean jack sh*t when you don't catch the ball in the end zone or to move the chains on 3rd/4th down.
And your point is what? That the Dolphins are better letting him go and rolling with Bess and Hartline? I'll check in with you in December and see how that's going.
The Bears gave up two third round picks to get Marshall. Now, put your GM cap on and ask this question: Would you rather have Marshall or Oliver Vernon and Michael Egnew on your team?
Of course he has risk and downside. That's why he was for sale. But he was a bargain for the production he puts up, and more importantly, he is a good fit for what the Bears need, a receiving threat who can prevent teams from stacking against what should be a pretty good running game with Bush and Forte. Maybe he will suck, maybe he won't, but the Bears got a good player on sale to address their most glaring offensive need.
Funny the Broncos can start a running back who blew out his knee and possibly one of the best QB's of all time who people though would never play again due to a neck injury with a wet field in the 1st pre-season game but the Bears sit Cutler, Peppers and Forte and Urlacher has been on personal leave for the last 5 days.
So the Bears didn't want to risk anyone getting hurt in the wet conditions. Very telling of this team if you're that scared to put any of these fragile fucks in for one series. Of course Major Wright got hurt again after one series so maybe they know what they are talking about.
I know, I know it's pre-season the Bears are so good on offense they can just throw a switch on September 9th.
Best line of the night goes to my wife. Announcer is closing the broadcast and says "Bears will be back next Saturday night against the Redskins and we'll get our first look at the starting offense" My wife says "Not if it rains."
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Maybe somber isn't the best way, but it was measured and looks like he wants to take responsibility as the focal point, or one of the focal points of the team.
Could he have matured, maybe even gain some empathy? After all, remember what people were saying about him, that if he could hurt dogs, he's probably pathological with humans too.
Combine that with the punk brother of his and you got the sense that the Vick brothers were in some way irredeemable. Obviously, the Eagles took a chance with him, mainly because of his abilities. I can see a Philly team signing him to a big contract but not teams in certain other cities.
I honestly think jail changed him. He's been pretty much incident free since getting out, and he was a true knucklehead. He might just be smarter about his public behavior, but he really does seem like a more mature and grounded person.
Brando70 wrote:I honestly think jail changed him. He's been pretty much incident free since getting out, and he was a true knucklehead. He might just be smarter about his public behavior, but he really does seem like a more mature and grounded person.
I don't know if it was jail in and of itself, but going from being an idolized celebrity worth $100m+ to a bankrupt ex-con in the blink of an eye tends to get your attention.
I'm still not a fan, but the dude had a choice in his life, and it appears the message got through and he's living earnestly now.
Whatever your opinion of Vick may be...hate him, love him, could care less...the guy has been nothing but a pro and very responsible since arriving in Philly. He has either legitimately changed (that would be my opinion) or is an incredible actor. When the Eagles signed him 3 years ago I was floored and didn't know what to think. Understand, we (here in Philly) have seen the 'Allen Iverson Experience' so we know what a bullshit artist looks/acts like. Vick will always have the incidents of a few years ago on his 'resume' but I have become a fan of him.
The infamous event was when Aikman or Irvin went down in a game there and there were cheers in the stands.
Yeah because that stuff never happens anywhere else. Philly is like any other sports crazed city...you have assholes, bulwinkles and then the mostly silent majority. No one ever wants to talk about the majority. For every stupid incident that has happened in Philly I can name others in other cities (Cleveland cheered their OWN player getting hurt - Couch) . It shouldn't happen anywhere but it's the culture we live in. It gets tiring when people make it sound like Philly is the only place it happens.
Wow did the JETS look bad the other night. The really need some playmaking receivers on the wings to add some speed threat to the offense.
Unfortunately I think this team peaked 2 years ago and things will go downhill now for a while. I don't think even the "chosen one" himself will
be able to lead this team out of mediocrity.
Gotta agree with you Jack. I think the Jets after they got Sanchez and got deep into the playoffs the first two years decided to throw all their chips on the table and cash in on free agents who were questionable characters like Edwards and Holmes thinking they and a few other pieces would put them over the top and into the superbowl.
dbdynsty25 wrote:Well Chad Johnson's career as a Dolphins will be complete shortly. I had high hopes...oh well. Probably should not head butt your wife. Maybe.
My sons and I just returned from a day at Jets' camp in Cortland, N.Y., just 40 minutes from our house. Wanted to go to Bills' camp, but it's 75 minutes away. Plus the Bills train in the evening, which doesn't fit as well with my weekend work schedule.
A few impressions:
1. Tim Tebow struggles to make even some basic NFL throws. That's no news flash, but his inaccuracy on basic outs and slants is even more galling in person.
2. Rex Ryan has lost a SH*TLOAD of weight through the gastric bypass surgery. Didn't even recognize him. He also has a massive tribal tattoo running the length of the outside of his lower right leg.
3. Darrelle Revis embarrassed a couple of Jets' receivers in a red zone pass defense drill. Dude is like human flypaper.
4. The pace of the Jets' practice was like chilled epoxy compared to what I saw from the Dolphins last week on the first episode of "Hard Knocks." I was STUNNED at how much time was spent today with players standing around or doing what appeared to be very low-speed drills. Sluggish, very little intensity at all. I figured Ryan would run a more snappy session.
5. NFL offensive linemen are MASSIVE men. The Jets' O-line looked like a mountain range when lined up in formation. We were probably 15 feet from them when they were doing pass-blocking and blocking sled drills.
A very fun day with my sons. I'm even more jazzed for the NFL to return, if that's possible!
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pk500 wrote:My sons and I just returned from a day at Jets' camp in nearby Cortland, N.Y. Wanted to go to Bills' camp, but it's 75 minutes away. Plus the Bills train in the evening, which doesn't fit as well with my weekend work schedule.
A very fun day with my sons. I'm even more jazzed for the NFL to return, if that's possible!
