OT: Playoff baseball

sportdan30 · Post by **sportdan30** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 9:20 am

Even worse, that's probably the last time you see C.C. in a Brewers uniform.

matthewk · Post by **matthewk** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 9:25 am

Yeah, I figure next year will be a drop off from this one. We'll likely lose Sheets (good riddance), Sabathia, Gagne (Good riddance #2), Cameron, and Durham.

My hope is that after his bitter performance last night, C.C. will come back to Milwaukee to make amends. Hey, I can hope can't I?

MizzouRah · Post by **MizzouRah** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:18 am

sportdan30 wrote:Ever heard of reverse psychology? Well in this case, it was reverse convincing. Don't worry. I'm grinning ear to ear seeing the Cubs are currently down 6-0. All you hear are boos throughout the crowd....I love it!

Well, it's working.. keep it up! lol...

I can't believe all the errors.. 4!?! wow.....

Manny is un-freaking believeable. I got into an argument yesterday when I told my friends if I was a baseball writer, Manny is my NL MVP.. the guy has single handedly propelled this team since his arrival.

Naples39 · Post by **Naples39** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:25 am

No respect for the Phils in this thread!

I was at the game last night. Good fun. I hope the Phils can close this one out and not have to go through a game 5 nailbiter back in Philly.

Slumberland · Post by **Slumberland** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:30 am

So help me, this grieving Mets fan likes watching the Cubs lose, the Dodgers win, and the Rays & Red Sox taking it to their less interesting opponents. The Phillies, on the other hand... it's hard to see them excel. I hope that crushing disappointment finds them before they reach their goal.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:36 am

Jesus...no one cares about the Phillies...get over it! All two of you!

Naples39 · Post by **Naples39** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:48 am

Slumberland wrote:The Phillies, on the other hand... it's hard to see them excel. I hope that crushing disappointment finds them before they reach their goal.

We're always prepared for that in Philadelphia. In fact, I think many Philadelphians prefer it.

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 1:16 pm

macsomjrr wrote:Cubs are dead in the water. Dodgers/Rays WS.

I hate rooting for the AL but if the Dodgers manage to make it in I'm going to be screaming for their heads. They just look so unbeatable and confident playing in away against the cubs. Who would've thought two months ago this would've been the case??? Never thought Manny could bug me this bad but oh how wrong I was.

Never much of a Manny fan either, but after getting a big dose of him in L.A., he makes hitting look too easy. It's like: swing the bat - hit a homerun - with a "why doesn't everyone do this?" look on his face...

I liked how he smiled before he jacked that one last night. scary talent. imagine if he ACTUALLY tried???

MizzouRah · Post by **MizzouRah** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 1:28 pm

That's the thing, Manny seems to be trying in LA, which is great for them!

Diablo25 · Post by **Diablo25** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:45 pm

Food for thought for those of you anointing the Dodgers the NL Champs already - The Phightin' Phils took 4 of 4 from them in their last series. This of course won't matter if neither of them don't finish off their current opponents. Bottom line, I believe the Phils can beat either the Cubs or the Dodgers. Lets just beat the Brewers one more before any BIG TALK.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 3:43 pm

Who anointed the Dodgers anything? It's not gonna matter anyway, since whatever NL team goes is gonna get annihilated by the AL team, regardless of who it is...well maybe not the White Sox.

macsomjrr · Post by **macsomjrr** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:41 pm

Diablo25 wrote:Food for thought for those of you anointing the Dodgers the NL Champs already - The Phightin' Phils took 4 of 4 from them in their last series. This of course won't matter if neither of them don't finish off their current opponents. Bottom line, I believe the Phils can beat either the Cubs or the Dodgers. Lets just beat the Brewers one more before any BIG TALK.

Was Manny on the team?

Diablo25 · Post by **Diablo25** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:58 pm

macsomjrr wrote:
Diablo25 wrote:Food for thought for those of you anointing the Dodgers the NL Champs already - The Phightin' Phils took 4 of 4 from them in their last series. This of course won't matter if neither of them don't finish off their current opponents. Bottom line, I believe the Phils can beat either the Cubs or the Dodgers. Lets just beat the Brewers one more before any BIG TALK.
Was Manny on the team?

Yep. He raved about the Phillies 1-2 starters (Hamels/Myers) and how nasty they were.

TheGamer · Post by **TheGamer** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 12:18 am

I was so optimistic about the cubs going into these playoffs, this has been just a weak display. All series they've been swinging early in the count and not taking pitches, finally in an elimination game, they start getting patient and Kuroda has been throwing 1st pitch fastball all night. These guys have executed all year long and all of a sudden they seem like they can't play baseball. This has been very disappointing.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 12:55 am

Where are the phillies fans now? Crickets.

Diablo25 · Post by **Diablo25** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 1:02 am

dbdynsty25 wrote:Where are the phillies fans now? Crickets.

Relax. Brewers played a solid game. Moyer struggled and the Brewers took advantage.

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 1:13 am

TheGamer wrote:I was so optimistic about the cubs going into these playoffs, this has been just a weak display. All series they've been swinging early in the count and not taking pitches, finally in an elimination game, they start getting patient and Kuroda has been throwing 1st pitch fastball all night. These guys have executed all year long and all of a sudden they seem like they can't play baseball. This has been very disappointing.

if by disappointing, u mean laugh out loud awesome. I agree...

RobVarak · Post by **RobVarak** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 1:23 am

Pathetic and very sad performance by the Cubs.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 1:26 am

Diablo25 wrote:
dbdynsty25 wrote:Where are the phillies fans now? Crickets.
Relax. Brewers played a solid game. Moyer struggled and the Brewers took advantage.

Who's worked up? Certainly not me. I could care less either way.

TheGamer · Post by **TheGamer** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 2:02 am

This is another Lou Pineilla playoff failure. He's a great regular season manager, but this is the second time he's gone into the playoffs with the best record in his league and failed to reach the world series.

The players on this team have absolutely no heart and no leadership. Soriano at best is just a good mistake pitch hitter. The story of this series was the dodgers top of the lineup consistently getting on base and scoring and Soriano swinging at pitches 2 feet out of the strike zone.

RobVarak · Post by **RobVarak** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 2:48 am

TheGamer wrote:This is another Lou Pineilla playoff failure.

I can't imagine a baseball-related sentence that I could disagree with more.

First of all, a quick fact. The Cubs become the ninth team in the last 14 seasons to lead their league in victories and not advance past the first round. This isn't exactly Halley's comet.

Lou wasn't out there flailing away. It's not his fault the entire team forgot how to catch the ball in Game 2 or that Dempster walked the ballpark in Game 1.

It was 3 awful games, made awful by the incredibly poor play of the Cubs. No combination of the guys on that roster would've made a lick of difference. And please don't tell me he didn't have them motivated or "ready to play." If you're a professional and you need to be told to play hard in the post-season you're a loser.

3 awful games. The Cubs had many stretches where they played that bad or worse during the season, and that was generally against competition not nearly as good as the Dodgers are playing right now and under much less pressure.

It's not an excuse. Nobody. Nobody is madder than I am and more upset that they lost. But this is the nature of post-season baseball, especially in these God-forsaken shitty, 5-game series.

Blame the players who didn't hit, pitched poorly and didn't field. Don't blame the poor old bastard who had to sit there and watch it from the top step! LOL

TheGamer · Post by **TheGamer** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:28 am

Rob it was either you or Lou, and since Lou's 0-6 over the last 2years I figured the blame should go with him

TheGamer wrote:
RobVarak wrote:
Go Tigers!!!

Watch that karma Rob

Dude, I'm a Cub fan. Karma has had her way with me for decades. It wouldn't be anything new

sportdan30 · Post by **sportdan30** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:22 am

Ahhh, I woke up this morning to see the Cubs got swept. Now, I have this stupid ol' grin on my face that I think is going to last all day long!!!!

Such a shame after a great great season. Unfortunately, Cubs fans will only remember how this one ended.

Side note: I'm very happy to see Jimmy Ballgame not get a W.S. rings with the the Cubbies.

sportdan30 · Post by **sportdan30** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:53 am

From Bernie Mikalsz from the St. Louis Post-Dispatch:

But Lou is building his own history of stunning postseason failures.

True, his 1990 Cincinnati Reds defeated La Russa’s mighty Oakland A’s in a four-game World Series sweep. But since that triumph, Piniella’s postseason record is 15-25.

Not only is Piniella 0-6 as the Cubs’ manager in the posteason, but he’s lost eight straight postseason games and 10 of his last 11.

Piniella’s 2001 Seattle Mariners won 116 games in the regular season, only to get ejected in five games by the Yankees in the ‘01 ALCS. And during Piniella’s eight-game postseason losing streak, his teams have scored only 16 runs.

Post by **Jared** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:29 am

RobVarak wrote:It's not an excuse. Nobody. Nobody is madder than I am and more upset that they lost. But this is the nature of post-season baseball, especially in these God-forsaken shitty, 5-game series.

I can never understand why the LDS is a 5-game series. It makes the playoffs that much more of a crapshoot, and would adding two more games to the postseason make it that much longer?