OT: Vick Indicted

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 2:20 pm

Anyone see the HBO Bryant Gumbel piece on Dog Fighting?? It's not for those with a weak stomach. Uh, it left fired-up & disgusted when it was over. What a bunch of dirtbags.

Feanor · Post by **Feanor** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:07 pm

I just heard on ESPN that Vick and two others hanged several dogs in the woods behind Vick's house, but some of the dogs didn't die. So Vick and his cohorts held the dogs' heads down in five gallon buckets of water to finish them off.

If there is any justice Vick will be sodomized to death in prison.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:11 pm

And to think there are still morons who wonder if Ron Mexico will return to the NFL next season ...

Take care,
PK

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:12 pm

Vick is going to have one helluva time getting back in the NFL if this stuff is proven true.

icvu42 · Post by **icvu42** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:31 pm

One of the letters in SI this week said..Vick should feel lucky the owners of the Falcons didn't drown, hang or throw him against a wall after the games he performed badly.

Rick

JackB1 · Post by **JackB1** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:58 pm

greggsand wrote:Anyone see the HBO Bryant Gumbel piece on Dog Fighting?? It's not for those with a weak stomach. Uh, it left fired-up & disgusted when it was over. What a bunch of dirtbags.

I saw it and was totally disgusted by it. They need to get rid of this horrible sport completely.

JackB1 · Post by **JackB1** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:03 pm

They said Vick had a deadline of today to decide if he was taking a plea or not. It looks like he didn't, so I guess he's going to trial. This case surely looks unwinnable for Vick at this point. I dont know what he is thinking? Both of the other guys today said that Vick took part in the killing of at least 8 dogs and would testify against him. He was also supposidly waiting for the NFL to tell him if his career would be saved if he took a plea bargain. If I was Goodall, I would tell him that I'll decide when I'm good and ready what his future is with the NFL. Goodall owes him nothing. I hope Vick truly gets what he deserves. I kknow that whatever it is, it won't be enough.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:33 pm

I am not a big animal lover...but man was that disgusting...f*** Vick

Feanor · Post by **Feanor** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:51 pm

The other day my wife was wondering how people could be so cruel to dogs, but I think most people who torture animals would also torture humans if they could get away with it.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:55 pm

Jack:

A legal analyst at ESPN.com wrote that a Vick plea may have been contingent on him cutting a deal with the NFL that would allow his return to the league in the future, if there were any takers. In other words, Ron Mexico would plea if Goodell agreed not to ban him for life.

If that's the case, then it looks like Goodell told Vick to get f*cked. Good for The Commish.

Vick deserves no deal from the league. It's his privilege to play in the NFL, not his divine right.

Take care,
PK

webdanzer · Post by **webdanzer** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:02 pm

Feanor wrote:The other day my wife was wondering how people could be so cruel to dogs, but I think most people who torture animals would also torture humans if they could get away with it.

And they are probably high carbon emitters as well.

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 2:54 am

pk500 wrote:Jack:

A legal analyst at ESPN.com wrote that a Vick plea may have been contingent on him cutting a deal with the NFL that would allow his return to the league in the future, if there were any takers. In other words, Ron Mexico would plea if Goodell agreed not to ban him for life.

If that's the case, then it looks like Goodell told Vick to get f*cked. Good for The Commish.

Vick deserves no deal from the league. It's his privilege to play in the NFL, not his divine right.

Take care,
PK

Yeah, why would the nfl care to leave a 'hole' open for vick to return? He needs the NFL waaaay more than the nfl needs him. Say hello CFL!

JackB1 · Post by **JackB1** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 11:23 am

pk500 wrote:Jack:

A legal analyst at ESPN.com wrote that a Vick plea may have been contingent on him cutting a deal with the NFL that would allow his return to the league in the future, if there were any takers. In other words, Ron Mexico would plea if Goodell agreed not to ban him for life.

If that's the case, then it looks like Goodell told Vick to get f*cked. Good for The Commish.

Vick deserves no deal from the league. It's his privilege to play in the NFL, not his divine right.

Take care,
PK

If I was Goodell, I would tell Vick he should have thought about the NFL while he was drowning dogs. The NFL owes him no guarantees of anything and should flat out say so. Can you imagine me going into my boss and asking for my job to be guaranteed if I plead guilty to a haneous felony charge? Goodell should say he's not deciding anything until all the facts are in and stick to his guns.

sportdan30 · Post by **sportdan30** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:41 pm

Vick accepts the plea deal....smart.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/08/20/vick/index.html

WillHunting · Post by **WillHunting** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:10 pm

I hope he gets 36 months.

grtwhtsk · Post by **grtwhtsk** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:42 pm

sportdan30 wrote:Vick accepts the plea deal....smart.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/08/20/vick/index.html

There is nothing about that guy that is "smart."

cootdog · Post by **cootdog** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:53 pm

He's never going to play another down in the NFL -- but that should come as no surprise.

Goodell will hand down a multi-year ban that will effectively end Vick's career. Once the ban lapses, no GM will want to touch that PR nightmare. What need could a slower, rustier version of himself possibly fill, anyway? He'd have to watch the game from the bench (and get pelted with dog sh*t).

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:07 pm

cootdog wrote:He's never going to play another down in the NFL -- but that should come as no surprise.

Goodell will hand down a multi-year ban that will effectively end Vick's career. Once the ban lapses, no GM will want to touch that PR nightmare. What need could a slower, rustier version of himself possibly fill, anyway? He'd have to watch the game from the bench (and get pelted with dog sh*t).

Hello CFL!

Inuyasha · Post by **Inuyasha** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:32 pm

cootdog wrote:He's never going to play another down in the NFL -- but that should come as no surprise.

I bet the Raiders sign him.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:04 pm

greggsand wrote:
cootdog wrote:He's never going to play another down in the NFL -- but that should come as no surprise.

Goodell will hand down a multi-year ban that will effectively end Vick's career. Once the ban lapses, no GM will want to touch that PR nightmare. What need could a slower, rustier version of himself possibly fill, anyway? He'd have to watch the game from the bench (and get pelted with dog sh*t).
Hello CFL!

Could the CFL afford him? I'm sure Ron will still have a very inflated opinion of his worth once he leaves the klink.

Second, CFL GM's apparently were upset by the signing of Ricky Williams because he was a convict, according to ESPN.com. What would they think of Vick, especially considering being the mastermind behind a dog fighting ring is just a bit more of a PR disaster than getting caught with weed?

Ron Mexico could sure tear up the Arena League, though!

Take care,
PK

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:19 pm

I can't wait for the first or second desperate NFL owner to go after Vick once he gets out of jail. I see it happening as sad as it sounds.

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:46 pm

Rodster wrote:I can't wait for the first or second desperate NFL owner to go after Vick once he gets out of jail. I see it happening as sad as it sounds.

Nothing will happen (most likely). Vick will get, at least, a one year NFL suspension (some think it could be 2). He won't even begin to serve his suspension until AFTER he completes his sentence. So, it could be 3 years before he can even walk into a training camp. By then, he won't look too attractive. He would have to go elsewhere (CFL, Arena, WWE) if he wants any kind of paycheck upon leaving prison.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:22 pm

pk500 wrote:Second, CFL GM's apparently were upset by the signing of Ricky Williams because he was a convict, according to ESPN.com.

When did Ricky do any jail time? He's not a convict, he's a pothead. There is a huge difference.

Brando70 · Post by **Brando70** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:15 pm

cootdog wrote:Once the ban lapses, no GM will want to touch that PR nightmare.

I'd put my money on Matt Millen.

So ends the career of the most overrated player in the NFL.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:18 pm

Brando70 wrote:
cootdog wrote:Once the ban lapses, no GM will want to touch that PR nightmare.
I'd put my money on Matt Millen.

So ends the career of the most overrated player in the NFL.

I dont know if hes the MOST overrated..they did get to an NFC championship game once...but I agree he is overrated.

Why is Matt Millen still around?...