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So pretty eventful year, first with the pandemic stopping the last season, then the bubble, then the BLM protests, then the Bucks and Clippers falling well short of expectations, Lakers championship.

Lakers win the free agency, odds on favorite to repeat. Huge moves, like the trade of Paul, the botched trade by the Bucks, some FA signings.

And just today, Westbrook gets traded for Wall and a first round pick? Houston may trade Harden as well.

NBA is trying to minimize losses from normal season revenues, as they won't have fans at the start of the season. So they're trying to squeeze in a 72-game regular season, in order for some of the younger players to play in the Olympics next summer.

After a bubble in which they kept their players from getting infected, now they're going to try to follow the other sports and travel for games.

If an NBA team faces a situation like the Ravens did this week, they could have half the team miss games for two weeks, which could be 4-6 games.

Luka said the NBA champions might be the team that best avoids the virus.

Adam Silver is probably going to find a way to get some vaccines.

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The Westbrook-Wall deal makes absolutely no sense for Washington and very little sense for Houston.

Both teams are dumping toxic assets and bad contracts in return for another one. Washington gave up a first-round pick for that honor, too.

Stupid deal. A classic example of the player power ruling NBA front offices these days.
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Depth will be crucial this season because of the quick start from last year. That's how Miami was able to get to the Finals by having the next available player stepping up when someone went down.

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pk500 wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:43 am
The Westbrook-Wall deal makes absolutely no sense for Washington and very little sense for Houston.

Both teams are dumping toxic assets and bad contracts in return for another one. Washington gave up a first-round pick for that honor, too.

Stupid deal. A classic example of the player power ruling NBA front offices these days.
It's a baseball trade. Both teams thinking they will get more out of a particular player and trading bad for bad. Happens all the time in MLB, so why not in the NBA? No real downsides except the first that Washington is giving up but they had to do it because of Wall's injury risk - dude is constantly MIA. So whatever, I don't crush either team for doing it...they are just trying to sell tickets I guess since there is no way in hell either team is winning a ring with those cancer's on their team as option 1 or 2.
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Oh, and I hate Chris Paul as a player...hate his game. Did not want to see him in PHX. Ugh. Reminds me of the time they traded for "over the hill" Shaq. Sad.

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Depth will be crucial this season because of the quick start from last year. That's how Miami was able to get to the Finals by having the next available player stepping up when someone went down.
And that's why the Lakers will be even better this year. They got a LOT deeper through the draft and free agency.
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James Harden to the Nets in a multi-team deal. Houston gets four 1st rd picks from the Nets and four 1st rd pick swaps. If that team can gel together and that's a BIG if because of Kyrie Irving they could take it to the Lakers.

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James Harden to the Nets in a multi-team deal. Houston gets four 1st rd picks from the Nets and four 1st rd pick swaps. If that team can gel together and that's a BIG if because of Kyrie Irving they could take it to the Lakers.
Seems like they're betting the franchise, because all those picks would be key for the next decade.

But KD's deal is up after next season or the one after that. Maybe with Kyrie being so flaky, Nets felt pressure to try to get another star in.

They gave up a lot of depth in addition to the draft picks so they're all-in on the next couple of seasons.

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Rodster wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:44 pm
James Harden to the Nets in a multi-team deal. Houston gets four 1st rd picks from the Nets and four 1st rd pick swaps. If that team can gel together and that's a BIG if because of Kyrie Irving they could take it to the Lakers.
I think this deal gives the Nets cover to try and trade Kyrie. The guy is a proven team cancer. He annoyed and flaked his way out of Cleveland and Boston, and it appears the similar situation is happening in Brooklyn.

But that trade scenario depends on finding a dance partner, and the number of teams willing to take a chance on the NBA's current king head case is dwindling. He has top-10 talent but is so damn flaky. What owner is willing to take a $34 million-per-season risk on a guy who could walk out at any time and right now doesn't even appear to be interested in playing basketball?

That's not hyperbole. Kyrie has missed four straight games for "personal reasons," yet he was participating from home in a Zoom meeting for a candidate for Manhattan district attorney last night while his teammates were on the floor. Is that the sign of a guy who really cares about his teammates and his contract? Does he really still have consistent passion to play the game?

The Nets are bound to implode if Kyrie stays. The ball isn't big enough for him and Harden, let alone the two of them and KD. The team also doesn't have a star alpha dog personality like LeBron with the Lakers or Draymond Green with the Warriors to keep a super team in line and happy.

People also will question Nash's authority as a first-year coach. But I also could see him as a Kerr-like psychologist who knows how to mesh disparate personalities into a tight team. Still, Kyrie may be beyond fixing.
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No more excuses for the Brooklyn Nets. Each player left their team because they could not share the spotlight with another superstar.

Bill Reiter from CBSSports.com summed it up best: "That's the most talented trio in the NBA -- one of the most talented in NBA history -- and if it doesn't work, there will be no one to blame in Brooklyn other than three stars who got actually exactly what they asked for: Each other."

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According to CBS Sports the Rockets had a better deal from the Sixers. Ben Simmons was being sent to the Rockets along with another player and a future draft pick but the Rockets owner had an axe to grind with Daryl Morey so he decided to take the Nets deal instead.

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According to CBS Sports the Rockets had a better deal from the Sixers. Ben Simmons was being sent to the Rockets along with another player and a future draft pick but the Rockets owner had an axe to grind with Daryl Morey so he decided to take the Nets deal instead.
Also Simmons signed a max contract last year so while he wasn't making as much as Harden, he'd be committed to a big payroll for a couple more years than Harden.

His fortune is in hotels, restaurants and casinos so there was always a suspicion he would cut payroll, definitely avoid luxury taxes.

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I don’t believe that. Morey was on record as saying Simmons would not be in any trade to Houston. And f@ck Harden.
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:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Injuries are a big factor in these playoffs.

Shorted season, quick turnaround from the bubble.

I think there was more games lost this season due to various reasons, injuries but also players being put in protocols.

Lebron got to break the rules and go to some party a day or two before his play in game.

But CP3 got infected and one local AZ station is claiming he got the Pfizer vaccine in February, which sounds early for someone in his age group, though maybe AZ didn't have high demand back then.

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Sir Charles got his wish. The superteam got eliminated. Maybe Kyrie Irving not playing factored in the Nets losing to the Bucks but damn, that’s a crap load of salaries and they can’t even get to the conference finals. I’m pulling for the Sixers but with Simmons afraid to shoot the damn ball, the Bucks should be heavy favorites.

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I'm looking forward to tonight's Heat vs Bucks game to see what difference was made by adding PJ Tucker and Kyle Lowry to the starting lineup. I'm curious to see if Tyler Herro takes the next step to his game. During preseason he was scoring on all three levels. His game kinda reminded me a little of D-Wade's.

All the concerns about Zion Williamson's weight is becoming a worry if you are NO. He's ballooned to over 300lbs, ouch. He's out with another foot injury. A super talented freakish kid who may not have a long shelf life in the NBA as some predicted before he was drafted.

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