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Part 2 - Delves into the coverup, including the years after his last Tour win in 2006. In fact most people would know about the Tour wins, followed by the admission of guilt but these last two hours give you a good outline or chronology until almost the present day, if you didn't closely follow the sport or his career.

The filmmaker who interviews Lance seems to have established a good rapport. At one point, she says "don't deflect" in a playful way. If she was tougher with him, he might have put up walls because there's probably still a lot of venom or what one of his former friends call "evil."

Lance says he's biggest regret was the way he treated Emma O'Reilly, who was the therapist or trainer on his team. She at one point talked about him disposing of needles. As he has done consistently, anyone who criticized but especially dropped the dime on him came in for vicious attacks, including in this case "whore."

So maybe watching this, you think he's matured or gotten past the anger, realizes he was wrong the way he treated people and has genuine sorrow.

But then he says he will never forgive Floyd Landis, who won 2007 Tour de France (the very next one after Lance's last win) but was stripped of the title when he was caught with testosterone. Landis was suspended but around 2009, he was trying to come back, just as Lance was trying to come back after a 3-year retirement of partying with celebrities -- he dumped his first wife for Cheryl Crow.

Nobody in the cycling world wanted to hire him yet they were angry, especially Lance, when Landis broke the omertà. Then it led to the 2010 US federal investigation, where the other cyclists confessed but Lance still denied. At the last moment, the case against Armstrong was dropped. He had a lot of politician friends so there's suspicion that friends in high places made that happen.

But the investigation didn't stop and with the USADA involved, the UCI banned him from cycling and stripped him of his Tour titles. Then all the big sponsors -- Nike, Oakley, Annheiser-Busch, etc. -- dropped him. Probably denied him $100 million of "income."

Then lawsuits came and he had to make multimillion dollar settlements. Other than a big 2013 interview with Oprah where he admits he doped, he's been out of the limelight.

Now here is where the old Lance revealed himself in the film, when he talks about people like Ulrich and an Italian cyclists who were both repudiated by their countries and fans and had very unhappy endings. Lance said it's "f***in bullshit" that these cyclists were disgraced and discarded by their countries and fans.

He also says it's "f***in bullshit" that he's been disgraced and discarded by America.

One of his cycling buddies said he went to have drinks with Lance not too long after all the revelations came out and Lance spewed a lot of venom about his plight.

One reason why he may be bitter is that if he really believed he lost $100 million by getting caught and losing all his sponsorships. He probably still has millions though, seems to live well in beautiful Aspen, CO, seems to be able to provide for all his kids.

Of course he lost 7 titles in the most prestigious event in his sport, though even before he was caught, the Tour had had several scandals, so it wasn't exactly a pristine legacy. With his combative, aggressive and hyper-competitive personality, winning probably means everything to him.

But if he had to choose between keeping his titles vs. keeping his money?

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New Tiger Woods documentary airing on 11/29/20 on ESPN.

Clips seem to be about his racial identity, as in he denied being black?
ESPN announced Thursday that its Undefeated vertical will be releasing a one-hour documentary on Woods to air Nov. 29. Titled “Tiger Woods: America’s Son,” the film will, according to the network, explore “how Woods’ historic win at the Masters in 1997—becoming the first African-American golfer to win a major tournament—influenced perceptions of the golfer across racial and ethnic lines.” The documentary also will explore racial identity and the meaning of Woods’ success in America.

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/tiger- ... ocumentary

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Got an alert, Tiger in rollover accident, had to be removed from car with jaws of life.

Agent says multiple leg injuries, in surgery now.


Well there were questions whether he could play the Masters after like his fifth back surgery since 2014 in December.

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A betting man would say pain killers are involved here, this reportedly early AM and didn't get out until noonish LA time. Wonder why that is?
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Danimal wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:07 pm
A betting man would say pain killers are involved here, this reportedly early AM and didn't get out until noonish LA time. Wonder why that is?
Yep. 7:12 a.m. is an odd time to crash on a straight road in good weather.

If painkillers are the culprit, the PGA Tour really needs to re-evaluate its stance on medical marijuana.

Anyone who plays golf knows now it can cause pain and injuries, especially for these pros who generate unreal torque on their bodies with their swings. Narcotic painkillers have been a problem for Tig in the past.

But he probably can’t use medical marijuana because it would prevent him from playing on Tour and negate a bunch of his sponsorship deals. But if drugs are the culprit, the guy clearly needs alternative pain management.
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Danimal wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:07 pm
A betting man would say pain killers are involved here, this reportedly early AM and didn't get out until noonish LA time. Wonder why that is?
He's got a squad of publicists protecting his image. The news coverage around here didn't even get to the scene until the 10-11a hour.

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I didn't get the news until late in the day on the east coast. crazy that it took that long to come out.

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Said to be in stable condition after surgery. Two broken legs and a shattered ankle.

If he tried to deliberately end his career, he wouldn't have to do too much worse.

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