Madden Next Commercaial

GTHobbes · Post by **GTHobbes** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 12:32 pm

Definitely didn't make me want to run out and buy a next gen system at launch. I've got it on TiVo and going back and looking at it again, I can see they still have not improved the blocking animations. On the kickoff return, the blocker and cover guy were just standing in place dancing with each other. Sheesh. Tiburon just doesn't get it, IMO.

Boom · Post by **Boom** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 12:36 pm

Well, the last thing I'm going to bust on Madden about is the Special Teams blocking when it's better than the competition's (2005).

Does it need to be improved, sure it does... but getting returns is possible.

Let's also not forget that I'm sure the highest priority for the commercial is to show the best possible graphics etc.

GTHobbes · Post by **GTHobbes** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 12:39 pm

Whatever. I was underwhelmed. What did you think of the electric goal line?

Sport73 · Post by **Sport73** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 12:40 pm

GTHobbes wrote:Definitely didn't make me want to run out and buy a next gen system at launch. I've got it on TiVo and going back and looking at it again, I can see they still have not improved the blocking animations. On the kickoff return, the blocker and cover guy were just standing in place dancing with each other. Sheesh. Tiburon just doesn't get it, IMO.

That's not gameplay footage, it's an artists rendition of what gameplay footage will/could look like (EA reps claim it's more than conservative, and that the actual game will look better).

Either way, I wouldn't try to extract anything from it in terms of AI, gameplay etc. since it's not a 'programmed' game.

If anything, I think the 'dark' setting is a mistake. I'd like to see a 'real' game, not one that mimicks the lighting of a local high-school game or "Any Given Sunday".

No doubt, the actual game will be bright and colorful when appropriate. Still, compelling graphics and hints at gameplay features that expand the role of the gamer as 'coach' of the team etc. make me excited about what next gen gaming might bring.

Boom · Post by **Boom** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 12:51 pm

GTHobbes wrote:Whatever. I was underwhelmed. What did you think of the electric goal line?

The electric goalline is hot!

Kanamit · Post by **Kanamit** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 1:32 pm

So what did the commercial SAY?

anchester · Post by **anchester** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 1:50 pm

what exact time was the commercial

Diablo25 · Post by **Diablo25** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 1:54 pm

We will see the real deal at E3...Im guessing.

bdoughty · Post by **bdoughty** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 2:43 pm

If you missed it here it is...

http://s13.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1RDA ... RD47EZGIDU

Good quality capture and only 18MB

Another option

http://movies.teamxbox.com/madden_nfl/m ... tgen_1.wmv

b_assassin · Post by **b_assassin** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 8:54 pm

I wasn't particularly impressed by the commercial either. Until they can show real gameplay, and articulate how said gameplay will be improved in the next gen, I won't pay much attention.

Inuyasha · Post by **Inuyasha** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 8:54 pm

Only thing I got out of it was that the players again look small.

MizzouRah · Post by **MizzouRah** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 9:00 pm

I didn't really pay attention to every detail, but overall I think it does a good job showing what the future holds gaming wise.

Todd

Schmev · Post by **Schmev** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:53 am

Wasn't even a completion for a touchdown.

Lowest thing is the ball and when that ball hits the ground first, TO never had possession, so no touchdown. Silly EA.

DivotMaker · Post by **DivotMaker** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 10:19 am

Schmev wrote:Wasn't even a completion for a touchdown.

Lowest thing is the ball and when that ball hits the ground first, TO never had possession, so no touchdown. Silly EA.

Don't know what video you were watching, but the one I saw was a touchdown. Silly post^^^...

Schmev · Post by **Schmev** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 10:39 am

Midair catch, feet never come down, therefore not a completion. Lowest thing is the ball and unless TO gets the arms down under it(he probably won't considering bad Madden animation), even if he crosses the plane, if the ball touches the ground before a shoulder, an elbow, a knee, or two feet down, it's not a touchdown.

If TO was superman, lept to catch the ball at the 2 yard line, never touched the ground and then flew out of the endzone without touching the ground, it wouldn't be a touchdown either. To have possession, TO has to complete the catch by doing any of the above. He won't. Ball hits the ground first, no touchdown.

DivotMaker · Post by **DivotMaker** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 10:48 am

He had posession of the ball when he crossed the goal line. Touchdown. End of story, end of scene.

Schmev · Post by **Schmev** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 10:54 am

Wrong. He has to catch the ball to gain possession. Possession isn't determined until he touches the ground. End of story.

DivotMaker · Post by **DivotMaker** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 11:06 am

Schmev wrote:Wrong. He has to catch the ball to gain possession. Possession isn't determined until he touches the ground. End of story.

The character had possession of the ball through the plane of the end zone and maintained posession as his elbows hit the ground. Since the FULL ending of the play was not shown, what WAS shown was a touchdown.

Argue with yourself as it seems you are hellbent on creating one for no reason.

Schmev · Post by **Schmev** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 11:09 am

LOL, now you are inventing elbows hitting the ground.

Okay, I'll admit I can't see whether elbows hit the ground or not, but looking at the video, it looks like there's no way he gets elbows to hit the ground first. If the ball hits the ground first like the video suggests more than elbows hit the ground, no touchdown.

My work is done here.

DivotMaker · Post by **DivotMaker** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 11:12 am

Schmev wrote: My work is done here.

Good.

I didn't "invent" anything. Geezus.....

Elbows hit the ground just before cutting to the endzone celebration plain as day here.