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Since it seems like we are heading in that direction that many of us will be stuck in our houses for the coming weeks and months...any one got some good NetFlix shows to past the time? A video game we might have missed etc...

Thought we could share some ideas since we have zero sports on TV in the coming days and likely at least a month
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Not me, at 62 I'm not buying into the fear and hysteria. Just look at the CDC numbers on how many cases of common flu are around the world. It's close to 1 billion with 500K dying from it each year. In the US alone there are up to 45 million flu cases each yr with up to 60K dying from it.

Is Covid 19 serious? Yes it is but the media is hyping it up like everyone will be dead if they don't step in and do something. But I'll tell you what people should really be worried about the possibility of The Greatest Depression humans have ever seen, much worse than 1929. Back then we had a population of around 2B and now we have roughly 7.5B people. We are now a Globalized society with a global just in time delivery system and we are shutting things down around the world. China is the world's factory and regardless of the happy face they put on things, they have shutdown their factories. Small and medium sized businesses have the potential of going out of business, people losing their jobs, their homes etc. This could lead to a nasty domino effect. So I would say prepare yourself for that.

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Suggestions? Don't catch it!

My queue for Netflix and Amazon Prime and my backlog of boxing matches to watch could sustain me through all of 2020. Plus there's always Xbox.

Or ... GASP! ... I also have a bunch of books I want to read.
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One Netflix series that I don't hear many people talk about is Money Heist. It was originally a Spanish heist show and it was dubbed in English and renamed for the US Market. It's absolutely awesome. There are currently 3 parts (like 20-25 episodes) and Part 4 comes out in soon (I believe April). Definitely recommend it.

And yeah, I wasn't all that worried about Coronavirus until I listened to the Bill Simmons/Malcolm Gladwell podcast yesterday. They were not exactly brushing it off...so I'm only slightly nervous now. LOL.

I just feel bad for my son...his baseball team is looking legit this season and I think we would have done big things, and I'm fairly certain it'll end up being cancelled soon. They already have closed all the local schools even though no cases of the virus have been found in our county. Ugh.

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Some off-the-beaten-path streaming suggestions.

Babylon Berlin. This will NOT be for everybody, but it's a German (subtitled) drama set in the late Weimar Republic. It's riveting, creepy, sexy, odd...just a hell of a lot of fun.

Halt and Catch Fire. A grossly overlooked casualty of the torrent of great dramas we are dealing with in the era of Peak-TV. It got lumped in as a Mad Men clone, in part because it had a handsome, mysterious leading man in a corporate setting, and in part because it was on AMC. It's really a subtle, almost literary, ensemble show about an amazing group of characters set in a time that should be really fascinating for most of us. It starts in the early-PC era and stretches until nearly contemporary time. And the two co-leading actresses are both drop-dead gorgeous and super talented. I wish everyone would watch this.

The Resistance Banker. This is a movie, not a series. It's Dutch (more subtitles). It's the story of a Dutch banker who uses his connection and his wiles to set up an entire bank that helps fund the resistance during WWII. Based on a true story and very cool.

I LOVE the new High Fidelity series. It stays pretty strictly tied to the story beats of the show and book, but casting Zoe Kravitz as the lead is a masterstroke. I wish they hadn't set it in NYC, but aside from that it's a definite success.

Wormwood is a crazy docudrama by Errol Morris (one of the world's leading documentary filmmakers). It's based on the life of a real scientists who may (or may not) have gotten caught up in the CIA's early days of biological/psy ops programs. A watch all in one sitting-type experience. Very compelling.
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RobVarak wrote:Halt and Catch Fire. A grossly overlooked casualty of the torrent of great dramas we are dealing with in the era of Peak-TV. It got lumped in as a Mad Men clone, in part because it had a handsome, mysterious leading man in a corporate setting, and in part because it was on AMC. It's really a subtle, almost literary, ensemble show about an amazing group of characters set in a time that should be really fascinating for most of us. It starts in the early-PC era and stretches until nearly contemporary time. And the two co-leading actresses are both drop-dead gorgeous and super talented. I wish everyone would watch this.
This. Completely agree. While it got kind of mediocre towards the end, the first couple seasons were absolutely awesome.

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The thing about COVID-19 is the unknown unknowns.

The flu comparisons are facile because, as bad as the flu is, we have immunizations that can both limit its spread and minimize its intensity in those who get immunized.

The idea that it only kills old or sick people is generally true...except when it's not. There are many cases of otherwise healthy people with no comorbidities who die from it. It's not a huge percentage, but it's not 0.

Moreover, many people are dying because even many of those who recover need to be on ventilators for some time. There are a very limited number of ventilators in the world, and they are always in ICUs. If people get sick faster than the ICU's can handle them, the docs have to triage and decide not to treat some people. This is what is happening right now in Italy.

NOBODY WITH ANY CREDIBILITY IS SAYING THIS IS THE END OF THE WORLD. It is a nearly-unprecedented challenge though. A virus with a 2-week(!) incubation period that causes such varied responses in infected respiratory systems is not Ebola or even MURS. Those bugs did not have nearly the incubation period or the capacity to be passed along, that COVID-19 does. You could have been infected on Leap Day (2/29), way back on the second day of the NFL Combine, the day of the South Carolina primary, and you may just now be showing symptoms!!!!!!! How many people would you have infected since way back then?

The contrarian "this is all hyped up and it won't be that bad" position is so attractive because it's likely that nobody you know will die and if the mitigation efforts work it WON'T be as bad as the worst-case scenarios. So you're going to have a bunch of bozos saying, "See, that wasn't a big deal at all," if mitigation succeeds. That said, responses that don't seem a little crazy are probably not going to be sufficient to mitigate the spread of the disease. You have to look a bit nuts to get the results you need, basically. And if they work...you look even more nuts.
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dbdynsty25 wrote:
RobVarak wrote:Halt and Catch Fire. A grossly overlooked casualty of the torrent of great dramas we are dealing with in the era of Peak-TV. It got lumped in as a Mad Men clone, in part because it had a handsome, mysterious leading man in a corporate setting, and in part because it was on AMC. It's really a subtle, almost literary, ensemble show about an amazing group of characters set in a time that should be really fascinating for most of us. It starts in the early-PC era and stretches until nearly contemporary time. And the two co-leading actresses are both drop-dead gorgeous and super talented. I wish everyone would watch this.
This. Completely agree. While it got kind of mediocre towards the end, the first couple seasons were absolutely awesome.
Boom. Agree 100 percent. Such a great series.
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I think Rob pretty much nailed the topic du jour. I am personally involved in the Airline business, I fly a lot yet I am fortunate that my CO has adjusted timely and accordingly to the changes that’s happening by the hour.

Our Prime Minister’s wife tested positive. Both parties are in hibernation now. While there’s no panic in my neck of the woods except for toilet papers :roll: , most public places are suited with proper equipment to help those individuals that don’t get it yet. It is not a made in China virus anymore people, it’s affecting the whole planet.

Italy unfortunately is the new China, scary how many citizens have succumbed to the virus by the hour while the country struggles to accommodate the sick.

Personally, I hope that things will improve in your neighborhood. Truly. While your President doesn’t seem too concerned, it is worldly known that America is rather late in protecting its citizens. What’s troubling so far is the fact that there are many carriers out there already that don’t feel the symptoms yet as this virus doesn’t show the effects right away, that will test positive.

There are babies that have tested positive, it knows no boundaries, everyone is different while the elderly are more fragile. This is all unprecedented, hospitals are overwhelmed, and professionals overworked.

Just be proactive out there, not reactive.

And on a lighter note, if you need your sports fix, hey the Dragons will be playing tonight and tomorrow, in fact feel free to lace up your skates if you wish and test your skills. Now there’s something you could do besides watching Netflix. 8)

Stay healthy everyone!

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pk500 wrote:
dbdynsty25 wrote:
RobVarak wrote:Halt and Catch Fire. A grossly overlooked casualty of the torrent of great dramas we are dealing with in the era of Peak-TV. It got lumped in as a Mad Men clone, in part because it had a handsome, mysterious leading man in a corporate setting, and in part because it was on AMC. It's really a subtle, almost literary, ensemble show about an amazing group of characters set in a time that should be really fascinating for most of us. It starts in the early-PC era and stretches until nearly contemporary time. And the two co-leading actresses are both drop-dead gorgeous and super talented. I wish everyone would watch this.
This. Completely agree. While it got kind of mediocre towards the end, the first couple seasons were absolutely awesome.
Boom. Agree 100 percent. Such a great series.
+1 to what's already been said. I still use the title track as my ringtone. Loved this show.

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My one suggestion regarding Covid 19 is if you haven't already, now is a good time to stock up on stuff that has a decent shelf life like rice, beans, canned foods, TP, soap and alcohol just in case the Gov't decides to do a partial lockdown or people go nuts and start raiding the supermarkets, Costco's and Walmarts. The supermarkets and Walmarts in my area have already been raided and are now limiting quantites. Also, now is a good time if you are on prescription meds to ask your doctor to write an additional prescription just in case the supply lines stop. A lot of the generic pharmaceuticals supposedly come from China.

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Yes I have seen Money Heist...great show and I do recommend it also.

A documentary to watch is The Devil Next Door

This thread was supposed to be about ideas to pass the time...
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vader29 wrote:pornhub.com
Constant rotation already. Need something “new” bro. LOL.

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Narcos and Narcos: Mexico...and everything else is a very distant second.

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sportdan30 wrote:Narcos and Narcos: Mexico...and everything else is a very distant second.

I had the flu last month and binged Mexico S2 so hard that I had a dream that night that was subtitled. This is 100% true. :lol:
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Shits getting real and fast.
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Danimal wrote:Shits getting real and fast.
No doubt. Grateful I live in the "other" New York -- far upstate. I'm 80 minutes from the Canadian border and five hours from Manhattan. That buffer could be vital, although there are plenty of people from the Syracuse area who have to go to the City for work trips regularly or change planes at NYC airports.

Still, NYC will be the medical Zombie Apocalypse within days. There aren't enough respirators in the entire country to cover NYC's needs alone. Chilling.

And if you want to get REALLY depressed and scared, read some of the reporting from the front lines in northern Italy from The New York Times. Social distancing and locking down are about the only chance America has from avoiding that level of catastrophe.

There's one thing I'm doing a lot besides washing my hands and social distancing -- praying. Our world needs it now more than ever.

I'm not scared. But my parents are 91 and 84. Not the best demographic for this virus. So, yeah, I'm uneasy as hell for them and the rest of our world.
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My band is livestreaming a gig from our rehearsal space at 8:30 p.m. (ET) tomorrow night, Saturday, March 21, for those REALLY bored. :) Hope to bring a few rays of rock-and-roll sunshine to these cloudy times.

The gig will be streamed at our band's Facebook page, http://www.facebook.com/StretchArmstrongBand. Like us if you haven't already, and we'll be ready to rock tomorrow night. Hope to see you online for the show! Thanks.
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RobVarak wrote:The thing about COVID-19 is the unknown unknowns.

The flu comparisons are facile because, as bad as the flu is, we have immunizations that can both limit its spread and minimize its intensity in those who get immunized.

The idea that it only kills old or sick people is generally true...except when it's not. There are many cases of otherwise healthy people with no comorbidities who die from it. It's not a huge percentage, but it's not 0.

Moreover, many people are dying because even many of those who recover need to be on ventilators for some time. There are a very limited number of ventilators in the world, and they are always in ICUs. If people get sick faster than the ICU's can handle them, the docs have to triage and decide not to treat some people. This is what is happening right now in Italy.

NOBODY WITH ANY CREDIBILITY IS SAYING THIS IS THE END OF THE WORLD. It is a nearly-unprecedented challenge though. A virus with a 2-week(!) incubation period that causes such varied responses in infected respiratory systems is not Ebola or even MURS. Those bugs did not have nearly the incubation period or the capacity to be passed along, that COVID-19 does. You could have been infected on Leap Day (2/29), way back on the second day of the NFL Combine, the day of the South Carolina primary, and you may just now be showing symptoms!!!!!!! How many people would you have infected since way back then?

The contrarian "this is all hyped up and it won't be that bad" position is so attractive because it's likely that nobody you know will die and if the mitigation efforts work it WON'T be as bad as the worst-case scenarios. So you're going to have a bunch of bozos saying, "See, that wasn't a big deal at all," if mitigation succeeds. That said, responses that don't seem a little crazy are probably not going to be sufficient to mitigate the spread of the disease. You have to look a bit nuts to get the results you need, basically. And if they work...you look even more nuts.
Echo Rob's comments. Measures that might seem a bit OTT are probably required and possibly should have been put into operation sooner.

Here in Madrid, we've been under lockdown for a week now. Though the Spanish public health system is amongst the most robust and best-funded in Europe, it's probably going to be severely tested in the coming weeks or months. The Government has decreed that all private health providers will have to report to and be under the control of the public authorities, which seems reasonable under the circumstances, though not everybody will agree. Hopefully, ICUs won't be overrun and people will understand the need for social distancing and isolation. Another worry is the fact that medical professionals are exposed to a very high viral load, meaning that staff levels in hospital and health care centers are very likely to be hit.

As regards Zlax's original post, I'm really enjoying Vikings but I realise that I'm very late to the game and you've probably all seen it already. Look after yourselves guys.

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pk500 wrote:My band is livestreaming a gig from our rehearsal space at 8:30 p.m. (ET) tomorrow night, Saturday, March 21, for those REALLY bored. :) Hope to bring a few rays of rock-and-roll sunshine to these cloudy times.

The gig will be streamed at our band's Facebook page, http://www.facebook.com/StretchArmstrongBand. Like us if you haven't already, and we'll be ready to rock tomorrow night. Hope to see you online for the show! Thanks.
Will try to get my time zones worked out and tune into your rehearsal PK :)

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RobVarak wrote:The thing about COVID-19 is the unknown unknowns.

The flu comparisons are facile because, as bad as the flu is, we have immunizations that can both limit its spread and minimize its intensity in those who get immunized.

The idea that it only kills old or sick people is generally true...except when it's not. There are many cases of otherwise healthy people with no comorbidities who die from it. It's not a huge percentage, but it's not 0.

Moreover, many people are dying because even many of those who recover need to be on ventilators for some time. There are a very limited number of ventilators in the world, and they are always in ICUs. If people get sick faster than the ICU's can handle them, the docs have to triage and decide not to treat some people. This is what is happening right now in Italy.

NOBODY WITH ANY CREDIBILITY IS SAYING THIS IS THE END OF THE WORLD. It is a nearly-unprecedented challenge though. A virus with a 2-week(!) incubation period that causes such varied responses in infected respiratory systems is not Ebola or even MURS. Those bugs did not have nearly the incubation period or the capacity to be passed along, that COVID-19 does. You could have been infected on Leap Day (2/29), way back on the second day of the NFL Combine, the day of the South Carolina primary, and you may just now be showing symptoms!!!!!!! How many people would you have infected since way back then?

The contrarian "this is all hyped up and it won't be that bad" position is so attractive because it's likely that nobody you know will die and if the mitigation efforts work it WON'T be as bad as the worst-case scenarios. So you're going to have a bunch of bozos saying, "See, that wasn't a big deal at all," if mitigation succeeds. That said, responses that don't seem a little crazy are probably not going to be sufficient to mitigate the spread of the disease. You have to look a bit nuts to get the results you need, basically. And if they work...you look even more nuts.
If Govt's and the general public were not treating it as the end of the world, their would be no need for "social distancing", mandatory lock downs and self isolation, panic buying and businesses telling their workers to stay home and closing their doors and this is happening around the world. I still think this has been badly managed by different govt's. That's a sh*t load of extreme measures just for another variant of the flu. But I have to go by the data and that data says that more people catch and die from the common flu.

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RobVarak wrote:The thing about COVID-19 is the unknown unknowns.

The flu comparisons are facile because, as bad as the flu is, we have immunizations that can both limit its spread and minimize its intensity in those who get immunized.

The idea that it only kills old or sick people is generally true...except when it's not. There are many cases of otherwise healthy people with no comorbidities who die from it. It's not a huge percentage, but it's not 0.

Moreover, many people are dying because even many of those who recover need to be on ventilators for some time. There are a very limited number of ventilators in the world, and they are always in ICUs. If people get sick faster than the ICU's can handle them, the docs have to triage and decide not to treat some people. This is what is happening right now in Italy.

NOBODY WITH ANY CREDIBILITY IS SAYING THIS IS THE END OF THE WORLD. It is a nearly-unprecedented challenge though. A virus with a 2-week(!) incubation period that causes such varied responses in infected respiratory systems is not Ebola or even MURS. Those bugs did not have nearly the incubation period or the capacity to be passed along, that COVID-19 does. You could have been infected on Leap Day (2/29), way back on the second day of the NFL Combine, the day of the South Carolina primary, and you may just now be showing symptoms!!!!!!! How many people would you have infected since way back then?

The contrarian "this is all hyped up and it won't be that bad" position is so attractive because it's likely that nobody you know will die and if the mitigation efforts work it WON'T be as bad as the worst-case scenarios. So you're going to have a bunch of bozos saying, "See, that wasn't a big deal at all," if mitigation succeeds. That said, responses that don't seem a little crazy are probably not going to be sufficient to mitigate the spread of the disease. You have to look a bit nuts to get the results you need, basically. And if they work...you look even more nuts.
If Govt's and the general public were not treating it as the end of the world, their would be no need for "social distancing", mandatory lock downs and self isolation, panic buying and businesses telling their workers to stay home and closing their doors and this is happening around the world. I still think this has been badly managed by different govt's. That's a sh*t load of extreme measures just for another variant of the flu. But I have to go by the data and that data says that more people catch and die from the common flu.
The comparison to the common flu is absurd, Rod. That is NOT what the data says. It's like saying the best HR-hitting prospect in 100 years isn't anything to be excited about because he's only hit 1 HR since he was called up a few days ago, whereas our so-so LF hits 8 HRs every year!

For instance in Italy, the flu kills a few hundred people per year on average. 600+ people died in Italy JUST TODAY from Coronavirus (4,000+ overall and counting). This thing is far more deadly than the flu--it's basically highly contagious pneumonia.

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The other factors are that it's about 2-3 times as contagious as the flu, and because it's novel, we have no immunity. It will sweep across the population in a wave. The stats say 20% of those that get it will get require hospitalization, 5% will require ICU care. For instance NY currently forecasts peak patients in May, when they could require 37,000 ventilators to keep people alive. The state currently has 3,000 total. What do you think will happen to those 34,000 patients who may not get a needed ventilator? NY has already begun drafting guidelines to rationing ventilators, ie choosing who lives and who dies.
https://www.wsj.com/video/new-york-draf ... 274FC.html

Northern Italy was considered to have one of the best healthcare systems in the world. Now hundreds are dying every day, they're skipping final exams in med school so students can be pressed into service, hospital hallways are lined with patients in gurneys on assisted breathing, and medical personnel no longer work shifts or test if they got infected themselves--they simply work until exhaustion. The army came in with dozens of trucks to ferry away the dead because local cemeteries and crematoriums can't keep up. Feel free to watch any of these (short) clips about what is happening in Italy right now, and will likely happen in varying degrees in NYC very soon, and across the country a little later.
https://vimeo.com/398334975
https://www.itv.com/news/2020-03-19/cor ... rly-3-000/#
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus- ... e-11961130

The coronavirus wave hasn't really hit the US and Europe yet, but it's about to. The world will carry on, the vast majority will survive, but how can we sit and do nothing when hospitals across the world are about to look like what we in the US think of as 3rd-world war zones? And without sufficient beds and medical equipment the death rate will be higher than the 2.5% overall CFR that China got shown in the chart above.

I didn't want to hijack the thread, but damn. This is not the common flu--it's a once in a lifetime medical tragedy. I just hope the extreme measures we just starting taking have a significant effect, and we come nowhere close to the scenario forecast by the Imperial College in England that said an 'unmitigated' outbreak would infect 81% of the UK and USA and directly kill 510k and 2.2M, respectively.
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That common flu data doesn’t tell you that the Covid-19 has a nasty habit of staying in surfaces much longer than what people predicted. Three hours in the air, 4 hours on copper surfaces, 24 hours on cardboard and 2-3 days on plastic and stainless steel. These droplets, particles whatever you want to call it will be eating you alive especially the younger generation whereas they still think are invincible and are still media socializing at an irresponsible rate.

These millennials carriers are my biggest concern as many still don’t understand the severity of this pandemic. They may survive their scare because of their youth but not for those that are above 60 years old infected by their selfishness and inaction.

In Asia where different governments have been much quicker and effective in warning people of the virus, they understand that it is almost impossible to ask for a lockdown of social gathering so instead they focused on the importance of mandatory masks wearing and other proper hygiene etiquette whenever possible even though it is true that a regular surgical mask may not cover you 100%.

When I was in Hong Kong a few days ago, 99% of the population was wearing a mask, people were gathering at restaurants and cafes but without the boom of yesteryears. Their concern now, particularly in Mainland China is the possible coming of the next covid-19 generation while the western world is just finding out now how brutal it was for countries like China and Korea 8-10 weeks ago.

The province of Wuhan hasn’t reported any new cases. How’s that possible? Simple, they banned all overseas travel from abroad while China Airlines still is allowed to land in many western countries.

I believe lockdowns are definitely necessary if populations don’t respect the social distancing, wear protection and just hibernate as long as this beast is controlled. CA did the right thing, NY state should be next.

Sorry, this is not your typical common flu comparison. Europe is already the next China. In fact there’s been more deaths already in Italy than China alone.

NorthAmerica is a grave concern of mine too.

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Re: Coronavirus Suggestions

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Naples39 wrote:The flu comparisons are facile because, as bad as the flu is, we have immunizations that can both limit its spread and minimize its intensity in those who get immunized.
But the numbers says that the common flu kills more every year. The problem I have with Covid 19 is that we are treating it like it's the "end of the world" and it's not. We are shutting down entire countries, businesses for something that the numbers say has so far killed less people.

Now I'll reveal why I have trouble with the fear and hysteria regarding Covid 19. In 1968 I lived thru the Hong Kong Flu, it killed around a million worldwide, it was bad and I attended my grandma's funeral because she died from it. I came down with the Flu in '67 and '68. I can't say if it was the HK Flu but I also had the Flu that year.

What was different in 1968 vs today, is that schools were still open, Sports leagues were still operating, restaurants were open for business and people were civil even in NYC. There wasn't any panic buying and stockpiling like it was the end of the world. What we have is the potential of completely blowing up the economy and potentially entering another Depression.

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