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 Post subject: Re: Fifa 20 News
PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:51 pm 
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Played an exhibition match yesterday. Like the tactical pace. Definitely slower than PES 2020. And like PES, happy to discover trick moves aren't overpowered.

But the big "game-changer" for me is the new Volta street football mode. Holy sh*t, that's FUN. Reminds me of FIFA Street, which was the most fun and underrated "street" sports game I've played. Better than NBA Jam. Better than NFL Blitz. Every bit as good as the pond hockey mode in the Microsoft NHL game for the first Xbox. Go ahead and shun me as a heretic. :)

Volta is why I'm probably going to buy FIFA 20 at retail and hold on PES 2020, banking on an early arrival to GamePass by PES 2020, just like the two previous games.


Was Volta in the demo? I didn’t see it. Thought there was just an exhibition mode.

Volta is playable in Demo yes.


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 Post subject: Re: Fifa 20 News
PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:45 am 
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Only exhibition mode is playable.

I was invited back in June to test play Volta. I’ll be honest. If you like picking up a 5 vs 5 arcade game where physics is not important in a footie game for you, then you may dig it. I was bored quickly. You can use the boards to your advantage to move the football around, skill your way to the net.

I’ll play it to practice the must skills for the FUT mode but definitely not my cup of tea.


Volta is playable in the demo.

EDIT: Oops. Jimmy beat me to the punch.

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 Post subject: Re: Fifa 20 News
PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:39 am 
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Played the demo for quite a bit last night and beyond the stellar presentation and visuals, I see very little improvements from a year ago. I get it. We all see what we want to see. For me, I saw no build up from the CPU, at least in the matches I played. They way they attack is all too similar. I don't see the A.I. booting the ball the ball through the air except when they are crossing it late. There are some positives no doubt. Pace of play is much better and one on one plays are very smooth. Then again, this is EA. The demo most always plays differently than the retail version, which is a shame for the most part.

Volta is pretty cool, but I see myself getting bored of it fairly quickly. It's all about trickery and whatnot. I guess I prefer the NBA Street style more than this. I'm sure going online would be a absolute nightmare with regards to my skill level!

Thank goodness for EA Access. 10 hours will last me a loooong time with this game and that will be that.

All in all, it's a hell of a pretty package, but I still feel it lacks the organic feel of the other soccer game which I so love.


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 Post subject: Re: Fifa 20 News
PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:52 am 
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No doubt, Dan. PES 2020 features far more variety and organic play. But I still think FIFA has plenty of buildup, as its gameplay speed is slower than PES, and it's harder to move through the midfield than in PES.

But the biggest difference between PES and FIFA remains the lack of offensive variety in FIFA. Nearly every team in the demo plays the same way. The CPU rarely switches field or passes backward when solid human defense blunts an attack. PES' AI does change up and back pass. FIFA isn't terrible -- far from it. But PES is better is on the pitch, without question. The days of dispute over this are done, at least for this year.

Still, I'm buying FIFA for a few reasons. One, my 14-year-old son adores FIFA. Two, there is a better variety of game modes and full licenses for a $60 game, especially Volta. Three, I'm on the Xbox, so no option files. Four, I'm also banking on PES 2020 showing up quickly in GamePass, just like PES 2018 and 2019 did. So I'll play FIFA until the New Year and hopefully switch to PES full time once it drops into GamePass.

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 Post subject: Re: Fifa 20 News
PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:34 am 
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Paul,

No doubt if I only owned a Xbox One, FIFA 20 would be my first and perhaps only soccer purchase. And for a 14 year old, it's sublime with all the packed features included. I'm almost sold on the presentation alone! I'm sure he'll absolutely get a lot of play out of the Volta mode. I'm actually looking forward to playing against my son this weekend and seeing how he enjoys it.

Unfortunately, the limited number of teams in the demo are pretty much all attacking teams. Perhaps we'll see some differentiation from other clubs. I'd love for that to be the case, because there's little game play subtleties and animations that I prefer in Fifa over PES. I do feel that Fifa is slowly making strides though with regards to offline play.


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 Post subject: Re: Fifa 20 News
PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:28 pm 
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pk500 wrote:
But the biggest difference between PES and FIFA remains the lack of offensive variety in FIFA. Nearly every team in the demo plays the same way.

That's always been an issue with FIFA and don't forget the "me vs the world gameplay". I skipped last year for the first time since FIFA 96. It became a yearly purchase for me but with Career Mode taking a backseat to FUT I decided, to skip.


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 Post subject: Re: Fifa 20 News
PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:20 am 
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I played a good bit of the demo this past weekend, and dang it I think I prefer Fifa to PES now, or at the very least, I'll own both. I really had a lot fun playing against the CPU. What I initially described as a full throttle offense by the CPU isn't necessarily so. If you play smart defensively, they seemingly are thinking of different ways to attack. There is some build up, but what I am also noticing and and enjoying is some human-like occasional errors caused by the CPU. Their passing or runs won't always be precise, and they do tend to slow things down every now and then. It's not to the variety as PES, but it's not as bad I initially thought. And compared to the rest of EA's sports lineup, the visuals and presentation is just a few notches above.


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 Post subject: Re: Fifa 20 News
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I played a good bit of the demo this past weekend, and dang it I think I prefer Fifa to PES now, or at the very least, I'll own both. I really had a lot fun playing against the CPU. What I initially described as a full throttle offense by the CPU isn't necessarily so. If you play smart defensively, they seemingly are thinking of different ways to attack. There is some build up, but what I am also noticing and and enjoying is some human-like occasional errors caused by the CPU. Their passing or runs won't always be precise, and they do tend to slow things down every now and then. It's not to the variety as PES, but it's not as bad I initially thought. And compared to the rest of EA's sports lineup, the visuals and presentation is just a few notches above.


Agree. I think both demos are really solid this year. Two games in their stride. Real competition -- not NBA Live vs. NBA 2K -- breeds improvements in EA and Konami football games.

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 Post subject: Re: Fifa 20 News
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Not sure if it's been mentioned but Fifa is on EA Access now.


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 Post subject: Re: Fifa 20 News
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Not sure if it's been mentioned but Fifa is on EA Access now.


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 Post subject: Re: Fifa 20 News
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Not sure if it's been mentioned but Fifa is on EA Access now.


Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: Fifa 20 News
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I still like the PES player models better. If you want to see how the game plays online try Head vs now as the servers are ideal, very smooth, UT maybe a differ t story by next week. Passes are not as accurate depending on who is controlling the ball. The game is not much different from the demo, still fast for my personal taste.

Offline matches maybe more realistic is you want to experience a slower pace gameplay even in the more difficult settings but with Fifa you’ll always have that ping pong effect in online matches.

I used to be a nerd trying to build different teams in FUT but since the last couple season my interest in SBC’s have diminished somehow. You just can’t compete with the big guns if you don’t spend big bucks on big players.

Still, FUT will be my main mode.


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 Post subject: Re: Fifa 20 News
PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 12:16 pm 
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Fine FIFA 20 review from the brilliant Eurogamer:

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019 ... d-the-room

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 Post subject: Re: Fifa 20 News
PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 1:03 pm 
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Yep, FUT has been brilliant for me for the past decade+ only to be ruined lately by the low probabilities of getting a premium player never mind superstar status in the pay to win packages that are offered daily. A brilliant marketing plot by EA, these guys make their true bread in these packages and not the game itself. Young lads that can afford their fat daddy’s wallet until they get the player of their dreams.

A loot box in disguise that brings millions to the coffins of EA yearly.

Volta after only a couple of games became boring for me as predicted, but you can use that venue to sharpen your skills moves.


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 Post subject: Re: Fifa 20 News
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EA and 2K should just give their games away for free because they have basically become Freemium games. Both companies make most of their money after the sale


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 Post subject: Re: Fifa 20 News
PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:32 pm 
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After playing quite a few Fifa games over this weekend, I can say I'm extremely happy w/ the on field improvements this year.

A few notes.

The ball is getting more PES like. Not every pass is foot to foot, they go awry - the AI makes bad passes and turns it over sometimes if there is pressure. The loose balls in the box are plentiful as they should be.

It's a lot harder to hit long shots this year, even w/ the finesse shot. Pace, footedness and angle is ultra important this year. Back in the day PES was the only game that really took into account how fast your player was moving. Fifa has finally started implementing. You can't be sprinting full speed and fire off shots in all corners like previous iterations. They've made it a lot more difficult.

Graphics are basically the same...there is a little field degradation, which is cool. But not really that apparently like it is in american football.

One thing that's cool in Squad Battles FUT is that finally you can play in other stadiums as the visitor. Previously you were always the home team at the same time/weather every single game. Now the stadium changes at least (haven't noticed weather/time now that I think about it tho).

Not sure I like the new FUT interface. The wheel that pops up to do quick actions for your players is ridiculously clunky. And swapping players is way harder than it should be...the search function and filter is convoluted and confusing.

Overall a solid update...


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