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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:13 am 
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But the question is, will sign stealing stop? I started following baseball since the late 60's and baseball has always dealt with this issue. The bigger question is, is there a level of sign stealing that crosses the line? Teams will do their damndest to steal the catchers signs.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:34 am 
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But the question is, will sign stealing stop? I started following baseball since the late 60's and baseball has always dealt with this issue. The bigger question is, is there a level of sign stealing that crosses the line? Teams will do their damndest to steal the catchers signs.


Sign stealing is part of the game. The part that is NOT, is using technology to do so. No one has gotten in trouble for getting signs the old fashioned way, hence the reason catchers use a series of signs with guys on base. No one cares if you can do it...they care if you're use tech to do so.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:09 pm 
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Rodster wrote:
But the question is, will sign stealing stop? I started following baseball since the late 60's and baseball has always dealt with this issue. The bigger question is, is there a level of sign stealing that crosses the line? Teams will do their damndest to steal the catchers signs.


Sign stealing is part of the game. The part that is NOT, is using technology to do so. No one has gotten in trouble for getting signs the old fashioned way, hence the reason catchers use a series of signs with guys on base. No one cares if you can do it...they care if you're use tech to do so.


Bingo. I always coach my guys, as baserunners, to see if they can get location or even the pitch from the catchers signs. My SS, who is now at the University of Kentucky, was great at peaking at the catchers signs while on first. When he would see off speed he would steal.

Another great way to steal signs is to watch the middle infielders while you are hitting. The SS and 2B should be relaying what the pitch is to each other (open mouth/closed mouth). Sometimes they will move too early and, as a hitter, you will see it. SS moves a step into the SS/3B hole - OFFSPEED. He stays put - FASTBALL. All acceptable and part of the game.

Here in PA there is a rule that you cannot have you phone on you because of the possibility of videoing.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:22 pm 
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Technology has played a big part no doubt. Everyone uses a Surface or iPad these days no matter what the sport is. Video should be allowed only on video replays while being monitored by an MLB representative. iPads shouldn’t be allowed near the dugout nor TV’s nearby.

When you allow video coordination in the dugout, you’re giving real time video information of the game rather than the standard streamed delay which is currently allowed.

The new age executives tend to think that they can out think the game by using such technology, a dangerous trend the league needs to address.

Use it only for allowed video-reviews...


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Technology has played a big part no doubt. Everyone uses a Surface or iPad these days no matter what the sport is. Video should be allowed only on video replays while being monitored by an MLB representative. iPads shouldn’t be allowed near the dugout nor TV’s nearby.

When you allow video coordination in the dugout, you’re giving real time video information of the game rather than the standard streamed delay which is currently allowed.

The new age executives tend to think that they can out think the game by using such technology, a dangerous trend the league needs to address.

Use it only for allowed video-reviews...


Problem is they HAVE to have a TV in the dugout for reviewable plays. Obviously there needs to be restrictions though.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:23 am 
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This whole scandal is just the beginning of a long list of managers and players about to fall flat on their faces. Jose Altuve? Did you or not wear any electronic device, when you beat the Yankees? He never wanted to have his jersey pulled by his teammates on the winning run. Hmm...


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:11 pm 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:13 pm 
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BUSTED. Nice find, Gregg.

There's NO WAY in hell an IFB would be taped to the chest of a guest on a post-game show. Plus guests usually don't wear IFB's -- that's reserved for the talent so the producer can communicate with them.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:25 pm 
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Interesting debate by the media, should the Astros and BoSox titles be taken away? If they do then that could set off other questions about HR records during the steroids era. Do you wipeout Barry Bonds, McGuire and Sosa records? They could be two separate issues but they both involve "cheating".

"The case for MLB stripping World Series titles amid cheating scandals, and the case against it. The 2017 Astros and 2018 Red Sox titles are under fire after MLB's latest investigative report"

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/the- ... gainst-it/


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There's no way MLB will strip the Astros and Red Sox.

The sport already is under fire, and questions about its integrity will linger long into spring training and perhaps the start of the season. While Manfred did the right thing by banning the Astros' manager and GM for a year, which led to the dominoes falling of these multiple firings, he probably would prefer that this controversy disappear as soon as possible.

If Manfred wanted to strip the teams from their titles, that would have been part of the announcement earlier this week in which Hinch and Luhnow were suspended for a year. You only drop an A-bomb once on the same area; it's not smart to drop a second bomb on the same destroyed area a few weeks later.

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Interesting debate by the media, should the Astros and BoSox titles be taken away? If they do then that could set off other questions about HR records during the steroids era. Do you wipeout Barry Bonds, McGuire and Sosa records? They could be two separate issues but they both involve "cheating".

"The case for MLB stripping World Series titles amid cheating scandals, and the case against it. The 2017 Astros and 2018 Red Sox titles are under fire after MLB's latest investigative report"

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/the- ... gainst-it/


That story makes a stupid analogy, by the way, Rod. It's comparing this controversy with Reggie Bush winning the Heisman in 2005. Puh-LEESE.

How did Bush and his family accepting money make him a better football player in the 2005 season, leading to his Heisman Trophy? That money had zero effect on his performance or on the field of play that season.

The Astros and Red Sox tilted the playing field in almost a 90-degree direction toward themselves by stealing signs with electronic devices. It definitely affected the game on the field of play.

BIG difference.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:02 pm 
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Interesting watching Kershaw’s numbers during the series with the Stroz. He was untouchable in LA with an envious ERA yet at Minute Maid stadium was lit up pretty well. Coincidence?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:26 pm 
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Here's another one: "Jack McDowell says Tony La Russa had sign-stealing system with White Sox in '80s"

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/285 ... te-sox-80s


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:17 pm 
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Wow, Dodgers to acquire M. Betts and D. Price in a three way deal which involves also the Twins. Mookie is set to be a FA next season.


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