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pk500 wrote:I can't wait to see this movie, "It Might Get Loud:"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl9iS2egnC0

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Friend just saw it said it was interesting has more respect for page and edge now not so much Jack white who seems like a tool.
Some funny early coverage of u2.
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pk500 wrote:I can't wait to see this movie, "It Might Get Loud:"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl9iS2egnC0

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Jimmydeicide wrote:Hope this is not too much out of line but my lad played his first real gig last Saturday.
I was so happy for them. They are all just 14 pretty damn good musicians too so heres some pics if anyone cares and a couple of songs on their my space page.
They do everything themselves and they have 4 original songs with a 5th almost complete.
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Late to the party, as I just checked these links. Jimmy, your boy is an evil player -- just like his old man. The kid has licks! :)

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Yeh thats their demo cd on his site now they where in the studio for 16 hrs last saturday recording it.

Not bad for a bunch of yutes(just watched my cousin Vinny) :twisted:

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Can't imagine there's anyone here who would be interested in this, but...

I downloaded the new Ace Frehley solo album from ITunes this morning and have been listening to it on my headphones at work most of the day. The lyrics are certainly nothing special, but I'm digging it overall. If you were a fan of Ace's '78 solo record, I'm sure you'd also like this. Pretty nice effort from Space Ace, and I'm definitely glad I got it.

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Just finished listening to my album of the year, Pearl Jam's Backspacer. They're my favorite band so I'm more than a little biased, but this is their best work in a decade. Can't wait to hear some of these songs live.

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Backspacer is incredible. I don't skip any of the songs.

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Cheers for the tip guys, I shall pick it up.

For those who like a little bit more Sturm und Drang in their music, Rammstein's new single 'p***y' is well worth a listen, poking fun of stereotypes of Germany while sounding like a....well, I nearly said Panzer division, but in light of the first part of the paragraph, like something extremely loud.

BTW, if you find the video online, I'd be extremely careful before watching it. Suffice to say, if I see this on MTV it'll have more cuts than a clumsy chainsaw juggler's torso. Made me laugh though, but it is basically a porn film :)
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Leebo, I'm glad to hear you're enjoying BS as much as I am. This album perfectly encapsulates everything I love about Pearl Jam (mostly, the passion).

Dave, if you you do pick it up, read some of the lyrics. Unbelievable, IMO.

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Not really feelin' the new PJ album unfortunately. Too bland. That's only after one listen though but so far I like their previous release better.

On another note I saw Springsteen last night. HOLY SH*T!!!! The place was up for grabs! This is probably not news to any Springsteen fans, but I am not one. I like his stuff okay and respect him but have nver considered myslef a fan...until now.

He's one of those artists that I have always heard needs to be seen live and puts on such a great show, etc...So I went for it and he blew me away! Thanks Bruce!!!
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davet010 wrote:For those who like a little bit more Sturm und Drang in their music, Rammstein's new single 'p***y' is well worth a listen...
What a chorus. And the video... ahem, well... yes... er... seems like a fun band to be in. *cough*

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Spooky wrote:Not really feelin' the new PJ album unfortunately. Too bland. That's only after one listen though but so far I like their previous release better.

On another note I saw Springsteen last night. HOLY SH*T!!!! The place was up for grabs! This is probably not news to any Springsteen fans, but I am not one. I like his stuff okay and respect him but have nver considered myslef a fan...until now.

He's one of those artists that I have always heard needs to be seen live and puts on such a great show, etc...So I went for it and he blew me away! Thanks Bruce!!!
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Spooky wrote:Not really feelin' the new PJ album unfortunately. Too bland.
Feel the same way. It's solid but not spectacular. Nothing on it made my ears stand up and say, "Holy f*ck!"

The new PJ album is a keeper, but not a heavy rotation pick for me. The entire Clash discography has been in heavy rotation for me lately!

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pk500 wrote:
Spooky wrote:Not really feelin' the new PJ album unfortunately. Too bland.
Feel the same way. It's solid but not spectacular. Nothing on it made my ears stand up and say, "Holy f*ck!"

The new PJ album is a keeper, but not a heavy rotation pick for me. The entire Clash discography has been in heavy rotation for me lately!

Take care,
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The Clash ? And you talk about bland ? ;)
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Oh, forgot to mention I 'acquired' the new Beatles box sets (both the mono and stereo remaster). The mono stuff is SO cool. There is some really incredible differences in the mono mixes. The rawer more rockin' tunes seem to stand out more in mono, a perfect example is Day Tripper. The mono version blows away the stereo. But for their more intricate, psychedelic stuff stereo is better.

As far as the stereo remasters go...I am having a hard time hearing a significant difference compared to the original CD releases. My somewhat extensive comparisons have led me to believe that the remasters basically have a bit fuller sound, more mid-range and feel overall warmer sounding. But on some tracks I can barely notice any difference. At one point I was wondering if my 'aquired' copy was legit and was thinking that perhaps I was only hearing differnces in the way it was digiatlly converted as compared to my itunes ripped copies.

Anyone else have experiecne with direct comparisons between the new stereo remasters and the original CD releases? Should I be hearing a much more noticable difference?
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pk500 wrote:
Spooky wrote:Not really feelin' the new PJ album unfortunately. Too bland.
Feel the same way. It's solid but not spectacular. Nothing on it made my ears stand up and say, "Holy f*ck!"

The new PJ album is a keeper, but not a heavy rotation pick for me. The entire Clash discography has been in heavy rotation for me lately!

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The Clash ? And you talk about bland ? ;)
Compared to Pearl Jam? You're serious? Different strokes, I guess. Or are you still torqued at Little Mickey Owen? ;)

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Spooky wrote: As far as the stereo remasters go...I am having a hard time hearing a significant difference compared to the original CD releases. My somewhat extensive comparisons have led me to believe that the remasters basically have a bit fuller sound, more mid-range and feel overall warmer sounding. But on some tracks I can barely notice any difference. At one point I was wondering if my 'aquired' copy was legit and was thinking that perhaps I was only hearing differnces in the way it was digiatlly converted as compared to my itunes ripped copies.

Anyone else have experiecne with direct comparisons between the new stereo remasters and the original CD releases? Should I be hearing a much more noticable difference?
I did a direct comparison between the remasters and my original CD's. Hard Days Night, Rubber Soul, and Revolver are pretty noticeable IMO. Abbey Road, not so much. Sometimes your ears (and sound system) can be deceiving. Turn on the iTunes Waveform (or something similar) and you'll visually see the difference in the levels.
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greggsand wrote:
Spooky wrote: As far as the stereo remasters go...I am having a hard time hearing a significant difference compared to the original CD releases. My somewhat extensive comparisons have led me to believe that the remasters basically have a bit fuller sound, more mid-range and feel overall warmer sounding. But on some tracks I can barely notice any difference. At one point I was wondering if my 'aquired' copy was legit and was thinking that perhaps I was only hearing differnces in the way it was digiatlly converted as compared to my itunes ripped copies.

Anyone else have experiecne with direct comparisons between the new stereo remasters and the original CD releases? Should I be hearing a much more noticable difference?
I did a direct comparison between the remasters and my original CD's. Hard Days Night, Rubber Soul, and Revolver are pretty noticeable IMO. Abbey Road, not so much. Sometimes your ears (and sound system) can be deceiving. Turn on the iTunes Waveform (or something similar) and you'll visually see the difference in the levels.
Oh, yeah, there is a volume difference, but I always find that to be kind of cheating. I always 'normalize' the volume on ALL my music anyway so after doing that the sonic differences became even less noticable. It's funny...I hear a fair difference in Magical Mystery Tour and some stuff on Revolver, but like you said, not much difference at all on the later stuff especially Abbey Road. Funny thing is that in a lot of the more negative, critical reviews I've read people seem to think that Abbey Road shows a bigger improvement than the others. Very strange.
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I normalize volume on all tracks, too, which is equivalent to saying I reduce volume on all tracks. :)

I can't stand the trend this decade of CD tracks being so damn "hot." The amount of clipping and lack of subtlety are rampant at such ridiculous dB levels.

MP3Gain is a vital tool in my MP3 workshop.

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pk500 wrote:I normalize volume on all tracks, too, which is equivalent to saying I reduce volume on all tracks. :)

I can't stand the trend this decade of CD tracks being so damn "hot." The amount of clipping and lack of subtlety are rampant at such ridiculous dB levels.

MP3Gain is a vital tool in my MP3 workshop.

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Yep...MP3Gain for me as well. I use 92db for all my stuff. I can't stand the overly loud masters either. The biggest issue is the fact that I shuffle my music constantly so I never have to reach for the volume knob every other song.
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Spooky wrote:
pk500 wrote:I normalize volume on all tracks, too, which is equivalent to saying I reduce volume on all tracks. :)

I can't stand the trend this decade of CD tracks being so damn "hot." The amount of clipping and lack of subtlety are rampant at such ridiculous dB levels.

MP3Gain is a vital tool in my MP3 workshop.

Take care,
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Yep...MP3Gain for me as well. I use 92db for all my stuff. I can't stand the overly loud masters either. The biggest issue is the fact that I shuffle my music constantly so I never have to reach for the volume knob every other song.
I use the default 89 dB. I figure the sound engineer who designed the program must have known where to set the default. :)

Some new albums have dB levels around 100. That's ridiculous.

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Spooky wrote:
greggsand wrote:
Spooky wrote: As far as the stereo remasters go...I am having a hard time hearing a significant difference compared to the original CD releases. My somewhat extensive comparisons have led me to believe that the remasters basically have a bit fuller sound, more mid-range and feel overall warmer sounding. But on some tracks I can barely notice any difference. At one point I was wondering if my 'aquired' copy was legit and was thinking that perhaps I was only hearing differnces in the way it was digiatlly converted as compared to my itunes ripped copies.

Anyone else have experiecne with direct comparisons between the new stereo remasters and the original CD releases? Should I be hearing a much more noticable difference?
I did a direct comparison between the remasters and my original CD's. Hard Days Night, Rubber Soul, and Revolver are pretty noticeable IMO. Abbey Road, not so much. Sometimes your ears (and sound system) can be deceiving. Turn on the iTunes Waveform (or something similar) and you'll visually see the difference in the levels.
Oh, yeah, there is a volume difference, but I always find that to be kind of cheating. I always 'normalize' the volume on ALL my music anyway so after doing that the sonic differences became even less noticable. It's funny...I hear a fair difference in Magical Mystery Tour and some stuff on Revolver, but like you said, not much difference at all on the later stuff especially Abbey Road. Funny thing is that in a lot of the more negative, critical reviews I've read people seem to think that Abbey Road shows a bigger improvement than the others. Very strange.
I didn't catch the differences in Abbey Road until I put on headphones (my headphone setup is way better than my stereo system). The space and subtleties (lots of little background bits, able to discern each voice in the harmonies) were very apparent when I A/B'd with the 1987 cd. "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" is massive sounding now. The White Album is another one that shines in the remastering; again, "Helter Skelter" is a monster, and "Ob-La-Di" doesn't completely suck. The White Album is probably the most listened to album in my life (my mom says I used to listen to it all day every day as a toddler, and I don't think a month passes without a listen even now), and the remasters made me feel like I was actually hearing it for the first time.

Overall, the remastering (to my ears) finally restores the low end to their proper place. The Beatles, despite all the frills and finery of the later albums, were propulsive, with a great rhythm section. The Mono mixes of the singles really shows this to great effect - as Spooky said, just crank "Day Tripper" and feel it. "Rain" is another good one as Ringo just smokes. Or check out Paul's bass on "Taxman" - I played bass for a while and I can't figure out exactly what he's doing when George is singing about "taxing the street." Some wild hammer-on and glissando thing, all supple power.

I'm kind of peeved that they didn't put out a "Definitive Beatles" set, with mono mixes through The White Album, and stereo for Submarine through Let It Be, with the proper single mixes as well. Or at least include both mono & stereo together, because I just don't have $450-500 to blow on both.

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pk500 wrote:
Spooky wrote:Not really feelin' the new PJ album unfortunately. Too bland.
Feel the same way. It's solid but not spectacular. Nothing on it made my ears stand up and say, "Holy f*ck!"

The new PJ album is a keeper, but not a heavy rotation pick for me. The entire Clash discography has been in heavy rotation for me lately!

Take care,
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PK, Backspacer (and for that matter, PJ) ultimately may not be your cup o' tea, but you're doing yourself a pretty big disservice, IMO, if you're listening while not reading the lyrics. Just brilliant.

And now, I'll quit with the schilling. :)

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Would I be opening up a big can of worms if I said the last Pearl Jam (PJ is PJ Harvey people!) album I really liked was Apple?

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pk500 wrote:
Spooky wrote:
pk500 wrote:I normalize volume on all tracks, too, which is equivalent to saying I reduce volume on all tracks. :)

I can't stand the trend this decade of CD tracks being so damn "hot." The amount of clipping and lack of subtlety are rampant at such ridiculous dB levels.

MP3Gain is a vital tool in my MP3 workshop.

Take care,
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Yep...MP3Gain for me as well. I use 92db for all my stuff. I can't stand the overly loud masters either. The biggest issue is the fact that I shuffle my music constantly so I never have to reach for the volume knob every other song.
I use the default 89 dB. I figure the sound engineer who designed the program must have known where to set the default. :)

Some new albums have dB levels around 100. That's ridiculous.

Take care,
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89db just semed a tad low to me. Somehow settled on 92db. Oh...and I graduated with a degree in Sound Engineering so don't be too afriad to try 92... :wink:
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