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I play with BAP Low when in goal, but Overhead when playing out. While the BAP cameras are nice in concept, they are less practical for seeing the entire ice and your position relative to the other players.Gangrel wrote:Are you guys all playing in Classic cam? I've been playing with the BAP cam in high, and tried the focus trick tonight, but it didn't seem to do anything.
I assume this is only in Classic Cam view?
I see this all the time now online. Anyone figure it out? Not sure if it is a glitch, juiced stats, some equipment settings....or maybe most likely a combo of the above?ScoopBrady wrote:All they kept doing was doing a stick move followed by a quick wrist shot. It seemed as if every time they did a stick move the goalie would commit and they'd wrist it to the opposite side. They might have been doing it from different spots on the ice (which actually scares the hell out of me since it will work anywhere) but they were doing the same thing over and over. As soon as they had a clear view of the net they'd flick the stick and then wrist it in. To make matters worse I couldn't hear any of you guys in chat. EA needs to patch this because it will ruin OTP with cpu goalies. Did you notice that in the pregame lobby as soon as they saw we didn't pick goalie that they said "Ha, we're going to kill you guys." If that was the first we saw of it then it won't be long before we keep seeing it.RobVarak wrote:I'd be more aggravated about it if I could replicate the glitch LOL And while all the goals seemed to beat the GK the same way, they were from different spots on the ice. I agree they were up to something, but I'll be damned if I could figure it out.
They why can't our club team score? I wasn't trying this "move" but i would imagine others are. We don't always play against human goalies, right?webdanzer wrote: I see this all the time now online. Anyone figure it out? Not sure if it is a glitch, juiced stats, some equipment settings....or maybe most likely a combo of the above?
CPU goalies are looking like sieves out there.
The Classic Cam is the best for online play. Just make sure to keep focus on the puck, not your player.Gangrel wrote:Are you guys all playing in Classic cam? I've been playing with the BAP cam in high, and tried the focus trick tonight, but it didn't seem to do anything.
I assume this is only in Classic Cam view?
My post is asking if anyone here figured it out. Unlike you, I didn't assume that folks here had.JackB1 wrote:They why can't our club team score? I wasn't trying this "move" but i would imagine others are. We don't always play against human goalies, right?webdanzer wrote: I see this all the time now online. Anyone figure it out? Not sure if it is a glitch, juiced stats, some equipment settings....or maybe most likely a combo of the above?
CPU goalies are looking like sieves out there.
I don't think it has anything to do with equipment or stats, it's all in the right analog stick. I think the cpu goalie reacts to dekes so if you deke from the blue line the goalie will go down in his butterfly and then you shoot opposite side. I haven't tried it because if I learned the mechanics of it I would completely ruin the single-player experience of BAP. Until this gets patched guys don't play a game without a human goalie. I just scoured youtube looking for a video of it but nobody has done one yet. I guess that's a good thing but I want EA to know there's a problem and fix it.webdanzer wrote:I see this all the time now online. Anyone figure it out? Not sure if it is a glitch, juiced stats, some equipment settings....or maybe most likely a combo of the above?ScoopBrady wrote:All they kept doing was doing a stick move followed by a quick wrist shot. It seemed as if every time they did a stick move the goalie would commit and they'd wrist it to the opposite side. They might have been doing it from different spots on the ice (which actually scares the hell out of me since it will work anywhere) but they were doing the same thing over and over. As soon as they had a clear view of the net they'd flick the stick and then wrist it in. To make matters worse I couldn't hear any of you guys in chat. EA needs to patch this because it will ruin OTP with cpu goalies. Did you notice that in the pregame lobby as soon as they saw we didn't pick goalie that they said "Ha, we're going to kill you guys." If that was the first we saw of it then it won't be long before we keep seeing it.RobVarak wrote:I'd be more aggravated about it if I could replicate the glitch LOL And while all the goals seemed to beat the GK the same way, they were from different spots on the ice. I agree they were up to something, but I'll be damned if I could figure it out.
CPU goalies are looking like sieves out there.
I mentioned it to you in my last game with you last night. I'd call out some of the most pertinent things, but due to the circumstances of where I play, I can't be overly chatty at 1 to 2 in the morning. Plus Gangrel is, currently, without a headset altogether.JackB1 wrote:Good games last night boys. Not sure if it's a glitch, but I almost never heard anyone talking except Zeppo? I don't know how we expect to win ever if nobody feels like communicating. It's a HUGE part of the game. All I heard was dead silence for 99% of the game. What's the deal? I am hoping it's just a glitch.
That's understandable. I couldn't tell if it was a XBL problem or something else. No sweat. BTW, you did a very nice job in goal. Any tips for any future goalies? I haven't tried it yet. Do you react with the analog sticks?GameSeven wrote: I mentioned it to you in my last game with you last night. I'd call out some of the most pertinent things, but due to the circumstances of where I play, I can't be overly chatty at 1 to 2 in the morning. Plus Gangrel is, currently, without a headset altogether.
That should toe-up a tight wrister, it still takes skill to pull off and aim consistently and in proper space. I shoot alot online and a couple of those I've netted have been of this variety. It's people who can hit it with consistency that are deadly online.MACTEPsporta wrote:I am at work all day today, but whoever is at home can try this. If you are a lefty go left-down on the right analog stick, then up to shoot. Righties - right-down, then up to shoot.
Thanks. That was a big change from my first two trips into the nets. So, Low camera is the best to use IMHO for goaltending. One thing I discovered last night was to use the "No indicators" method of highlighting players. In this way, the *only* highlight is the puck carrier and it is either of a color for your team, or white for opponents so it is very easy to tell who's stick a puck is on as well as where the attack is coming from.JackB1 wrote:BTW, you did a very nice job in goal. Any tips for any future goalies? I haven't tried it yet. Do you react with the analog sticks?
I would love to see a video on this technique, if someone is able to do one.MACTEPsporta wrote:I am at work all day today, but whoever is at home can try this. If you are a lefty go left-down on the right analog stick, then up to shoot. Righties - right-down, then up to shoot.
That is all well and good for the most part but neither of you are acknowledging the fact that there is a major problem/exploit that people are using online. If you are coming up the left side and the goalie is playing his angle all you have to do is do a quick deke and the goalie will go down leaving a gaping hole on the right side of the net so a quick wrister in that direction goes in a majority of the time. This can happen anywhere on the ice, all you need to do is get the goalie on one side and get him to commit for an easy opening on the opposite side. The only way to counter that is to block shots from the blue line or play the body as they enter the zone. Basically you can't let them take those shots. We are far too undisciplined in our defensive play to counteract these glitch goals. What you and Rob are talking about is sound and logical only when you're playing another team that won't use this exploit. Those numbers will start to dwindle as this phenomenon starts to spread. EA needs to address this soon.GameSeven wrote:One thing that's dawned on me coincides with Rob's observations last night. Playing against CPU and human goalies are decidedly different (duh). *BUT* here is what I mean. It's apparent that there are those with proper skill/technique that can exploit CPU goalies on certain wristers that human goalies can better play the angles on. However, CPU goalies are seemingly *FAR* less prone to give out a fat rebound or to be out of position on such a rebound to give up a good second chance. Coupled with the difficulty in poking in those rebounds, crashing the net strategies seem less productive than sniping strategies angainst CPU goalies. And we appear to lack skill in the latter.
I'm not disputing anything you said, just speaking from experience on games where we've taken a trashing on seemingly 'innocent' wrist shots. I don't recall seeing widespread occurence of dekeing a goalie down from the blueline. I *have* seen talented/cheeser shooters exploit a goalie in the manner I described above to the tune of half-dozen goals in a game. As I see more instances of the exploit you've described, I'm sure I will come to the same conclusion.ScoopBrady wrote:EA needs to address this soon.
One game I played in last night, the other team scored 5 goals, all using the same move. The player usually skates to the area near the faceoff circle, and does some "stick work" and shoots. It seems that the move is "money in the bank".10spro wrote:In all honesty I have not seen much of the so called *exploited* wristers when we play OTP, but I did noticed that on my one on one online matches, one dude scored on me easily 3 goals using that method.
What I found interesting was this:ScoopBrady wrote:I found this thread where the guy kind of describes it:
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/sports/ ... pid=946759
Wow, now I'm sorry I didn't log on last night. What team was that in your video? Ice Dragons making the extra pass? Unselfish play? DSP must have been overtaken by an alien force.GameSeven wrote:Great games tonight guys. We finally seemed to win as much (or more) that we lost and it seemed that we got several great scoring chances in each game. Sorry if I missed any wrap-up chat after that last OT winner, but I took the opportunity to upload my first vis to EASW. Congrats to Isles on the great finish:
Sport73 wrote:Wow, now I'm sorry I didn't log on last night. What team was that in your video? Ice Dragons making the extra pass? Unselfish play? DSP must have been overtaken by an alien force.GameSeven wrote:Great games tonight guys. We finally seemed to win as much (or more) that we lost and it seemed that we got several great scoring chances in each game. Sorry if I missed any wrap-up chat after that last OT winner, but I took the opportunity to upload my first vis to EASW. Congrats to Isles on the great finish:
Lol, in fact last night we had pretty good chemistry all night. In truth, we should have dismantled that last team as they had two guys cherry picking most of the time and we outshot them (quality chances too) by a 3-1 margin. Their goalie stood on his head to force scoreless overtime. Finally the clip was from a *really* poor pass that got picked off by the CPU (#21 in the vid) who led us on the break...Sport73 wrote:Wow, now I'm sorry I didn't log on last night. What team was that in your video? Ice Dragons making the extra pass? Unselfish play? DSP must have been overtaken by an alien force.
